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cpt_shawky
30th Jun 2009, 17:06
Could anyone help tell me what this message means for Degaulle Notams

A2676/09 - ILS QFU 26R CAT2 AND CAT3 AND TKOF PRECISION OUT OF SERVICE. 13 JUN 14:31 2009
UNTIL 12 JUL 23:59 2009. CREATED: 13 JUN 14:31 2009

No_Speed_Restriction
30th Jun 2009, 18:04
are you mid-flight awaiting a response?

cpt_shawky
30th Jun 2009, 18:09
nop but still I have no clue for this notam:ugh:

QFU is not ILS at degaulle :rolleyes:

hetfield
30th Jun 2009, 18:13
Strange!

Must be French.

cpt_shawky
30th Jun 2009, 18:18
no english & stills a current notam!!

I love twins
30th Jun 2009, 18:34
After a bit of digging QFU seems to just refer to runway magnetic heading / number designation. Seems a bit superfluous but there you have it. Searching Q codes seems to point to this although some docs say QFU refers to fuel availability at the airfield. Given the context of the NOTAM though I'd say it was the former.
26R usually used for departures anyway.

JABBARA
30th Jun 2009, 18:44
ILS QFU 26R QFU 26R means runway direction in "q code". To make the things more complex and confuse the pilot`s minds, they prefer to say QFU 26R rather than RWY 26R.:ugh:

CAT2 AND CAT3 AND TKOF PRECISION OUT OF SERVJAR OPS (EU-OPS)-TAKE OFF MINIMUMS- Appendix 1 to Jar Ops 1.430 (a) (4) (ii)
Subject to the approval of the
Authority, an operator of an aeroplane using
an approved lateral guidance system for
take-off may reduce the take-off minima to
an RVR less than 125 m (Category A, B and
C aeroplanes) or 150 m (Category D
aeroplanes) but not lower than 75 m
provided runway protection and facilities
equivalent to Category III landing
operations are available.

This means, even your airplane is equipped with approved lateral guidance system (e.g HU system), which is guided by Localizer signals that makes your airplane capable to take off with an RVR between 125-75m (for Category C airplane), with this notam, consider your system is unusable.

ray cosmic
30th Jun 2009, 18:54
Seems the localizer is not corresponding with the runway centerline; so not useable for low vis operations.

cpt_shawky
30th Jun 2009, 20:20
Dear

I love twins

JABBARA

thanks for your valuable information :ok:

:O

Piper19
2nd Jul 2009, 17:38
When I was 17 and learned to fly I always had to say "check QFU" when aligning for takeoff, which meant I had to check magnetic compass and directional gyro that it was approximately runway heading. My instructor told me it was a good habit to get when the time would come to learn IFR (which I never did). It is the same as "left/right turn, opposite bal, attitude stable" during taxi turns to check attitude and turn indicators, that also came during the first IFR lessons.

No_Speed_Restriction
2nd Jul 2009, 18:47
........................and? :ugh:

salzkorn
2nd Jul 2009, 18:56
hello,

it means that the ILS for rwy 26R are temporarily only catI, therefore catII and catIII approaches are not allowed, as well as LVTOs....

S.