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dumbdumb
25th Jun 2009, 09:42
If you work for Polar/Atlas it is highly recommended that you vote YES to get two seats on the Board. There are some important decisions to be made and if we have no voting rights at this level then we're sold down the river . . . .once again. Voting ends by July 16th (I think). If you haven't received your ballot package in the mail make sure you call the local to get one.

What good does a union do for you if you have others making decisions NOT on your behalf? Get the word out and vote YES on this very important subject matter.

dieselsix
25th Jun 2009, 20:35
NO.
Two board member or none, what's the difference? ABX will have total control either way. Should 200 crew members control 700 crew members? No way, I rather pack my bags and leave. They need us more then we need them.

742
26th Jun 2009, 01:07
This really is not the place for local union issues.

nitty-gritty
26th Jun 2009, 05:43
The new union web site has a bulletin board system now. You just have to be a member in good standing and registered. I think the former is required to vote on the bylaws. The web site and forum is at http://wwc.apa1224.org/

It only takes being one day late to be in bad standing for those without dues check off that are interested in voting.

dumbdumb
26th Jun 2009, 10:42
742 --

This is a public forum to get the word out and it needs to be out.

Tex
26th Jun 2009, 13:46
I've tried to register several times and I keep getting a "server session timed out" message.

FastHap
27th Jun 2009, 03:19
Call the union hall on Monday @ (800) 294-1224. They should be able to help you sign up/log in.

whaledriver101
27th Jun 2009, 18:25
I agree with dieselsix. What difference does it make?? Atlas for Teamsters!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dumbdumb
28th Jun 2009, 03:08
Deisel,

I assume you're not Polar/Atlas judging by your post. Any seats are good seats. You never know. I'm on the Polar side of things and Bourne sold everyone down the river --except for those of us that voted ALPA. We're only along for the ride. What I mean by this from what I understand there will not be a local union now. It's all at the National level. Correct me if I'm wrong.

There's no reason a union (the 76 drivers) that isn't flying our routes or planes should make decisions for us as a whole. Nothing against you guys but it just doesn't seem right. What do board members know about what we need for scope, protections, etc? Where we've been, where need to go, etc.?

Foo Dog
29th Jun 2009, 05:57
I have my ballot. I'm voting for the bylaws. Some representation is better than the alternative. I have faith in Steve R, Bob K. and the rest of the WW Negotiation Team. Overall I feel they are looking out for the interest of all WW Pilots. United we stand, divided we fall.

Dutch74
29th Jun 2009, 15:15
I have never been a member of ALPA but have been in the IBT for a long time. Being a rep at the Local Level has absolutely no impact on your Union membership running under the local. If you have a strong EXCO, that is all you need.

fob727
29th Jun 2009, 18:07
Muckle...strong leadership??? That's a joke!

Dutch74
30th Jun 2009, 05:29
I just don't get why Atlas crews want to take over their local. Maybe I'm missing something, maybe a lot of Atlas crews are still thinking ALPA, I just don't know, and want to understand why.

nitty-gritty
30th Jun 2009, 06:19
I just don't get why Atlas crews want to take over their local. Maybe I'm missing something, maybe a lot of Atlas crews are still thinking ALPA, I just don't know, and want to understand why.We don't. Early on we were promised our own local if we chose to go that way, but now the airline division says they want us to show financial ability before letting us do that after the decertification of ALPA. They now refer to it as a "touch and go." I think Atlas/Polar could do alright on their own instead of acquiring all of ABX/1224's debt, overhead, large number of guys on full time flight release, and grievances.

wall-e
10th Jul 2009, 11:13
YES YES YES:ok: