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disturbedone
21st May 2009, 13:02
Will heads roll?

blueloo
21st May 2009, 13:45
How about a bit more information.....

Starts with P
22nd May 2009, 00:59
Will heads role?

No.

They are too busy cracking down on any "perks" for Controllers to worry about operational stuff like major issues with the operational radar system.

Duff Man
22nd May 2009, 03:05
There are perks?

Seriously though, was it V12 related or some other part of the system architecture?

Starts with P
22nd May 2009, 04:56
Shift swaps, days off, etc.

Going Boeing
22nd May 2009, 08:22
Would this "upgrade" be responsible for the mismanagement I experienced on descent/approach into MEL this morning? I recall seven speed changes throughout the descent.

makespeed250kt
22nd May 2009, 08:44
That's a bit rough Boeing! You musn't have been the only one in the sky this morning:ok:

Dangly Bits
22nd May 2009, 10:27
Are you talking about the fact that there was a bunch of time where all the aircraft fell off the screen on Wednesday morning? They even had to send a couple of aircraft back to the gate.

Software upgrade problems.

Going Boeing
22nd May 2009, 11:13
MS250 & Coral, I think that I might have been misunderstood. I do not know what problems the TAAATS upgrade has introduced so I was asking if the upgrade has made the sequencing of aircraft for approach more difficult. The descent earlier today was more complex than anything I can recall in a long career so I thought that there may be more behind the scenes than the controllers just having an off day. We weren't the only aircraft in the sky but at the same time, the airwaves didn't sound particularly congested.

mikk_13
22nd May 2009, 13:06
I heard it was due to renegade controllers that weren't using it properly to get a better deal from the eba.

Starts with P
22nd May 2009, 22:43
Well it certainly wasn't a staff shortage problem, they are all fixed now! :rolleyes::ugh:

TrafficTraffic
23rd May 2009, 00:45
Might want to change your location Mikk....

man on the ground
23rd May 2009, 13:09
GB

MS250 & Coral, I think that I might have been misunderstood. I do not know what problems the TAAATS upgrade has introduced so I was asking if the upgrade has made the sequencing of aircraft for approach more difficult. The descent earlier today was more complex than anything I can recall in a long career so I thought that there may be more behind the scenes than the controllers just having an off day. We weren't the only aircraft in the sky but at the same time, the airwaves didn't sound particularly congested.

No, not related. The software issues were only 'entertaining' 'up north'. Wasn't there, so can't help with why you got the works. Seven sounds like a bad day though; something must have gone off the rails.

Robbovic
24th May 2009, 03:18
This unfortunately is not an isolated incident in projects in this organisation.
Political interference in operationally critical decisions has become endemic.
"Leaders Leading" is a complete farce.
The sound of resignations hitting the desk should have been deafening last friday before this software went on if those with the authority had any cojones.
Sadly it has all happened before - remember when we had to roll back version 51? Same situation - not operationally ready but political pressure overroad sensible decisions.
I hope they get it right before trying again because we wont always be lucky enough to dodge the bullet.