Ukrainian Plane Skids Off Runway in Istanbul

[visibility3miles]

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- A Ukrainian plane with 44 passengers and crew on board skidded off the runway after landing at Istanbul's Ataturk airport on Monday, reports said. No one was injured.

Television footage showed the Embraer ERJ145 of the Dniproavia aviation company leaning on its nose several meters (yards) from the runway.

All 44 passengers and crew were evacuated safely, the state-run Anatolia news agency said.

The private Dogan news agency said the plane's front landing gear was stuck in mud.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/03/23/world/AP-EU-Turkey-Plane-Off-Runway.html

[MerNion]

Ukrayna uça?? ?stanbul'da pistten ç?kt? - Video CNNTurk.com (http://www.cnnturk.com/video/turkiye/2009/03/23/ukrayna.ucagi.istanbulda.pistten.cikti/12352/index.html)

From the above video it looks like it's the UR-DNE

[Cash Machine]

http://www.airkule.com/default.asp?page=haber&id=5916

[Cash Machine]

AirportHaber Foto Galeri (http://www.airporthaber.com/v3/galeri/?mod=show&gal=145)

[Navigator33]

Let me guess... rwy 24 in wet conditions? What do I win?

[Tinytim]

Isnt this aircraft one of the ex BA Connect/Flybe ones?

If so any ....one know its former regn?

[GGFFB]

Tim


She was EMBS in her former life

Rgrds

[Tinytim]

Thanks!

There were a couple of its sister airframes that had gone "offroad" due aquaplaning before but so far as I can remember BS was not one of them..

[Navigator33]

Look at the history of rwy 24. It probably has nothing to do with the aircraft but rather the enourmous amount of rubber and one hell of a downslope.
Not the first overrun in IST.

[Paradise Lost]

Navigator33, nope sorry you don't win! I would suggest he landed on 06 and ran off the end (by the 24 threshold!). If you know the airport, he stopped the rascal about 30m. from a hefty drop onto the main road that runs around the airport.
You are absolutely correct however that several a/c have run off both 06 and 24 due to the downslope gradients from both ends. Add a little rain, and that's when floating it down the runway gets you into BIG trouble!

[GGFFB]

Paradise Lost

Is that where the Ariana 300 ended up down the hill last year?

Rgrds

[Navigator33]

Ah ok I stand correct then.
Haven't been to IST in a while but have the finaly cleaned up the rubber on the rwy?

[Aeroengineer1]

As I know, there is a project for extension of Runway 06-24, which will be implemented next year. They will also reconstruct it to remove the slopes.

[wobble2plank]

Damn,

I always like the 06 approach, especially at night! Downslope, short (ish), wide runway and those rubbish 'paraffin' flights down the centre, well those that you could see anyway under the Dunlop carpet at the touch down zone. Add to that the gentle slope of an over run at the 24 end, all added up to a nice night out.

:ok:

[Aeroengineer1]

Things happen on the other runway, too. This is from aviation-safety network:

Date: 11 Oct 2007
The flight to Warsaw was forced to land in Istanbul (IST) due to a technical problem. The airplane overran runway 18/36 on landing. The main undercarriage was sheared off and the MD-83 came to rest just short of approach lights.
ASN Aircraft accident McDonnell Douglas MD-83 SU-BOY Istanbul-Atatürk International Airport (IST) (http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20071011-0)

[Paradise Lost]

It will be an interesting project extending 06/24 as it is bounded by a main road at both ends within 50m. or so of each threshold!
That pair of runways has seen the demise of many an aircraft which failed to stop in time, probably the most noteworthy of which was an Egyptair 707 which landed long on 24 in the wet in about 2000, and continued off the runway at about 60 kts, crossed the main road and fell into a railway cutting beyond that. Amazingly everyone walked away from that, and the poor old 707 got chopped up to reopen the tracks! Within a month of that escapade another of his colleagues in a 767 ran off the other end and finished up looking much the same as yesterday's ERJ.

[Aeroengineer1]

24 threshold will be displaced, therefore the road there. I think there will be major civil works to fill the land around there.

[Navigator33]

Aaah I just realised I've been mixing everything up. It is of course rwy 06 I was talking about in the first place.
That's the one with the downslope, clif at the end and lots of rubber! :ugh:

[PEI_3721]

This accident appears to have many contributors as outlined in this presentation:- Managing threats and errors during approach and landing. (http://www.flightsafety.org/ppt/managing_threat.ppt)
It’s a good time to reconsider some of the hazards of landing on less than ideal runways. Beware a wet concrete runway; is the IST runway a concrete surface – it appears so in the photos?
Winter may be receding in the Northern hemisphere, but wet and windy conditions happen at any time; as do the fast approaches and long landings, etc, etc.

[MaxBlow]

You'll need more than two hands to count all misshaps within the past 10-15 years. The enormous amount of rubber on both ends doesn't make it easier when the runway is wet.

I always ask for 36/18 when the wind allows an approach even if we have to accept a delay. ATC always accommodates that request without asking questions.

[Dash-7 lover]

As it's an ex-BACON plane - should be used to skidding off the end!

[fatih]

Apparetnly 06/24 has formed a dich on the runway, the water builds up and forms a large puddle on wet day hence aquaplaning, rumour says there going the extend and revamp the whole runway