THY 1702, 24 Jan near miss with LH ?

[smoky lass]

24.1.09 THY flight 1702 grazed past a lufthansa flight about 60 minutes before landing in Istanbul around 14:55, passengers said LH flight was about 50 meters away.. any info?

[CptRegionalJet]

"passengers said".....what a reliable source:=

[minstermineman]

Passengers can be as reliable as any other crew on the plane, they can see things the pilots cant . . .

[silverhawk]

Like TCAS?

[AltFlaps]

I agree - if the passengers saw it, it must be correct.

Let's not forget, the customer is always right.
Sometimes, in fact, when I have a really tough command decision to make, I often delay my decision until I've had a chance to ask the passengers what they think I should do.

Recently, on a Cat3 approach, we didn't see anything at decision ... but because I am both CRM and cutomer minded, I asked the First Officer to take control while I carried out a survey of the passengers.
The cabin crew very kindly agreed to carry out a poll for me, and the result was:

87% Shoot back up into the sky dramatically
10% What could possibly go wrong, let's continue, I have a meeting
3% I paid £6.78 + tax for this ticket, I demand to speak to the captain now

If this case, I did agree with the pasengers, and so I turned to the First Officer and said "Shoot back up, I say again, Shoot back up, acknowledge".

Funny ... I haven't flown with that FO since ...

[Evanelpus]

24.1.09 THY flight 1702 grazed past a lufthansa flight about 60 minutes before landing in Istanbul around 14:55,

Did it say Moooo on the way past?

[HEATHROW DIRECTOR]

AltFlaps.. You sound like my kind of aviator! Brilliant.

[minstermineman]

Like TCAS?


Sounds like the pilots couldn't see TCAS if this incident is true !

[drivez]

There's a simple answer really. Just check the flight deck seats, if they had a big brown patch it was probably 50 meters away.