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rr892igw
28th Dec 2001, 07:47
Typhoon VAMEI with wind speeds 75ktsG90kts hit
Singapore at appro 0700utc yesterday,dozens of flights diverted to kuala lumpur.chech this out,<a href="http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/products/jtwc/wp3201.gif" target="_blank">web page</a>.
TYPHOON BELOW 2*NORTH? WE SHOULD ALL GET A REFUND FROM CAA FOR MET THEORY! :)

BackSeatPilot
28th Dec 2001, 11:21
Not much fun in the air I would guess. Fortunately I was on terra firma but it was truly a spectacle. Caused a massive traffic snarl and something close to 36 hours non-stop wet stuff. The island has a few largish drainage canals running across it - most of which were full to the brim when I drove past them. One of the few times I was thankful for high-rise living.

Other than haze or preciptitation, I've never landed at Changi in anything more than a mild crosswind. Good wake up call! In the dim distant past I resided in Windy Wellington (NZ). 35kt winds? Childs play! Ah the memories.....

BSP

greybeard
28th Dec 2001, 19:37
No it was absolutely no fun on approach at 1015/1020Z as the wind at 3000 was 355/55-65, going to 240/260@25/30 on final 20R.
Worst ride for a long time and the water over all the surface of Singapore was rather unusual, even the little green lights were under the water in places.
Full marks to the auto pilot etc we were able to wrestle the whole thing down safely, some others had a visit to JHB or delays in outports.
Where is that geography teacher who said no cloud above 35,000 and no storms like this at 0 degrees????
Mother Nature showing off again.
:)

411A
29th Dec 2001, 06:30
Has happened before as well, December 1978 to be exact, 22 inches of rain in 24 hours with winds at 40+ knots gusting to 60. Great fun in the B707 at Paya Lebar.
'Tis called....the rainey season.

Hermie
29th Dec 2001, 18:07
Hey,

Yes, I was just wondering how some planes could land on that day. As I heard on the ATIS, wind was 300' at 15kts, direct and variable between 220' and 250' gusting up to 30kts. Visibility was 1400m as at 0730/0800Z.

According to what I heard there were lots of traffic build up over NYLON. My question is during this time some aircraft choosed to land while some made go-around or flew to a different airport ? Did they hand-fly or did they use autopilots to land ? Was there any wind-shear ?

Thanks, just curious !

Best Regards,
Herman <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

greybeard
30th Dec 2001, 04:53
Hermie, the variables of each crew/aircraft type/state of the winshield wipers/refitted with rain repellent or not and the actual rain at the MAP are so vast you would be better to guess lotto numbers and get first prize.

Several aircraft made an approach and missed out, diverting to JHB etc,some elected not to approach and diverted to JHB/KUL etc, some as I did assessed the actual weather at my "luck of the draw" approach time and were successful. I had taken some "additional" fuel, others from longer flights may not have had that luxury and elected to go rather than end up on bare minimums at the alternate after an unsucessful approach.

It was very rough, very very heavy rain on final, which had been at the MAP previously, and sufficient vis for us to be sucessful in landing safely. It was never a certainty we would be successful even right down to the touchdown the option to go around was being assessed as in reality are all approaches.

Not a nice day at all, everyone made good operational choices I hope and many had the day rather disrupted as did our passengers. It will take a day or so to get lives back to the first plan.

Regards
:)