DC Aviation in troubles?

[chrispler]

I hearde that DC is in troubles 3 Legacy grounded - 1 Lear 60 and 2 Lear 40 will be grounded this year - really struggling for the moment - all freelancers dismissed ...

Someone heard any similiar ?

http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/factfile.php?id=6n7jur0y1z915mev932nwge4hh0fbkh7yaefs41er05k 98281uk

[LGW Vulture]

You are indeed correct! :(

[His dudeness]

Someone heard any similiar ?

Yes I did, but less specific than you, they have or already had a big meeting I was told. Parking (grounding?) of airplanes (I heard 3 - maybe that was the Legacies?) seems to be a fact. Heard it from someone in the company.

No-one seems do be doing good at the moment, and the ones that were aiming at the russian market are hit the hardest, so I hear.

My flightdepartment is in danger as well.... just hope to have my job in half a years time.
This time I think its going to be way worse than the last downturn. Although there is a lot of media hype, the behaviour of my board tells me a lot.
They are not flying at all since 4 weeks and I don´t hear a word from them...
My internal GPWS says "pull out, pull out" but where to? The FD symbol is off the PFD for that right now... good luck to all.

[Der_Fischmeister]

All Will Be Fine ----im Sure

[cloud07]

Hallo Fischmeister,

when everything is so fine - why you are looking for a job in the thread in the first line? :confused:

And nothing is fine with DC-Aviation. No flights - most of the AC´s are parked on the ramp. They dismissed all freelancers. They started to get rid of FA´s.

Nobody is speaking bout expansion anymore - nobody speaks about the new Airbusses anymore.
But I assume - Fischmeister - I just miss the "BIG PICTURE" here!?

Good luck with the search for your new job! :}

[LGW Vulture]

Derr Fischmeister, interesting comments from you given your outburst about Vista Jet. One rule for one eh?

Silly boy....... :=

[Holycow]

As per web page of Interpersonnel DCA all the job offers were withdrawn

[cloud07]

its true about Velvet. But also the other AC´s are not flying. DC is loosing money.
DC lost the sales department of Cirrus during merger - and they still feel the pain.Thee young girls from sales in EDDS don´t have a clue what they are doing. They also did not sell much flys in the high season.

And about our friend Fischmeister:
He is just our little Top Gun and dreams about new ratings on nice and shiny AC´s. And everytime someone asks about DC-he freaks out - don´t know why.

My opinion-Mr. Fischmeister - nobody should be interested to see a company close down - may it be Vista-DC, Ocean Sky or AIr Berlin. If this happens it will be hard for everybody. Maybe you should include this into your "Big Picture".

[dan1165]

Well said Cloud07 :ok: !

[Smeagels Boyfriend]

RWL- Trainee

We just wait for some Russians to pay their bills! MMmmmmmm good luck with that.

[easybandit007]

Hi all, DCA is really in trouble. On friday were fired all people from all departments in the company and technical supporter, which were from job leasing agencys or not longer that 6 month in All job offers are not valid anymore. The atmosphere in company is really bad. No quotations for sales, vast amount of unpaid invoices, no money from russian owners. Really bad times for the company. The only last chance to keep the job, if the financial situation gonna be better at the soonest next time.

[Smeagels Boyfriend]

That doesn't sound good

[inner]

I think it also had to do with the bail out in the states. One condition to get the money from the government was that DC had to get rid of the aircraft.

No, future does not shine bright for DC aviation.

[SpainFly]

I do not think so, because DC-Aviation has NOTHING to do with Daimler Chrysler :rolleyes:

[easybandit007]

Hello SpainFly, what about 2xG550 owned by Daimler and all the business flights of them? Is it nothing?

[SpainFly]

You are right, sorry. Did forget about that fact:bored:

[magenta]

:D

To the cheap shot loving bad mouthing biz jet community

It's always interesting to notice the difference between what people actually know and what theythink they should talk about.

Failing true and valid information paired with knowledge, I recommend to leave it to those who actually know what's going on.

In this particular case measures taken by the DC Aviation management are a signs of being proactive given the outlook for 2009.

If there is anyone out there who belives that 2009 can be surived without appropriate cut backs I can only say - dream on.

[Vertigo_FDS]

:D

Well said Mag! I can't help but wonder how much chaos is being caused in the Flight departments of these companies by the spread of these rumours. My advice to everyone - Shut up and do your job for the next few months. Consider yourself lucky if you come out of this in the same position as before.

...good luck to us all!

Vert out

[merlinxx]

Just let the Trolls have their fun time, ignore and they will go away and/or GFY in reverse pitch:E

[PicMas]

Maybe one should, given that one is working for a company discussed on a public board, think about possible consequences of telling everything one knows/ perhaps dont know/ perhaps dont fully understand.
Maybe one should, in the spirit of christmas, peace, love and brown rice, STOP YAPPING on a public board !!!

When the yapping and nonsense has stopped, maybe comes the time for reflection and afterthought.
"What did I accomplish by sharing this, possibly privileged, information"
"Could I possibly be feeding a self-fulfilling prophecy"
"Would my company be better off if they fired me, or better yet, never had hired me"

Nothing wrong with warning fellow aviators about the occasional crook out there, NOT the case here.

"Lose lips sink ships":eek::eek:

[merlinxx]

Well said PicMas :ok:

[jetopa]

There is nothing wrong with discussing any company's health-status publicly. But, mixing pure speculation with ill wishing 'bravo sierra' is potentially harmful and I, as an employee of DC Aviation, am not willing to accept that my job is at risk because of that.

The following is quite obvious:
the international financial crisis does affect business aviation as a whole - and DC Aviation is no exception

we did suffer a decline in revenue flights in the past few weeks and

some of our customers are flying less than before.


DC Aviation is far from being bankrupt and the company's owner continues to be committed to its success. This is good and this is reassuring for all of us.

What needs to be done right now is cutting costs and marketing ourselves effectively - besides other measures which do not belong to a public discussion.

We might disagree occasionally about what's right or wrong, but I have no doubt in my mind that this company will not only survive, but be fitter and stronger when the crisis is over.

Difficult times often offer opportunities for improvement and creative solutions.

[hawker750]

I have only been in this business about 40 years so probably not too qualified to comment but if more people spent less time making snide comments and allegations about other peoples' businesses and spent rather more time looking after there own businesses then a lot more work would get done and a few less businesses would fail.

[learjet50]

HAWKER 750


Well said I have been in the business as long as u however i preceed you by 1 Year

There are 2 many Do Gooders who think they know all about the business

The Truth is they know FxxK all really (THEY THINK THEY D0)

There not in a real world


Regards

[hawker750]

I suspect that there are a fair number of "trouble makers" stirring up the dirt so as to make their competition look unstable. They should have the bottle to say who they are and who they work for. Failing that they must stop their prattle.

[learjet50]

Well said

PUT UP OR SHUT UP

Lets know who you are dont hide behind a facade in pprune

[PPRuNe Towers]

I love the smell of a good logic bomb in the morning.

Rob

[Belgium Legacy]

He has left the building and took his posts with him by the looks of it.

My excuses for the posting from me that got deleted by accident.

[max.aret]

The latest word I heard from DC-Aviation: 15 redundancies.

[happyjack]

40 years and you still can't spell "their!"

[Duck Rogers]

40 years and you still can't spell "their!"


hj.

I know the spelling police aren't popular on here but as a fellow pedant I'm intrigued, why did you wait a month?

While we're pedanting, never start a sentence with numbers ;)

[happyjack]

DR

OK How's this? Forty years and.........

"wait a month?" 'Just lazy I guess, or only just noticed!

But seriously I just don't get this there, their, they're. This is primary school stuff that I learned when we still had milk monitors. How come a bunch of professional pilots don't know this??? It's just embarrassing! :confused:

Glad we agree though.

HJ