Asiana Interview

[gibas]

Hi guys!

Just got an email from parc for a screening in January09, for a A320 CPT position.
I would be very grateful for any info from someone who has been recently through it.

I've heard that the SIM is straightforward.
I went 3 years ago through the Taiwaneese medical check, which I guess should be similar to the Korean one.
What about other issues such as personal/tech interview?
Any exams for license conversion?
How long did it take from interview until joining?
What about salaries and when do they start paying? Taxes for expats (EU)?
Rostering, layovers, commuting ?
What about working enviroment?

Thanks in advance!!

[bjlurzjet]

I've heard that the SIM is straightforward.
I went 3 years ago through the Taiwaneese medical check, which I guess should be similar to the Korean one. See below
What about other issues such as personal/tech interview? See below
Any exams for license conversion? Air Law test, English test.
How long did it take from interview until joining? 2 months
What about salaries and when do they start paying? Taxes for expats (EU)? See below
Rostering, layovers, commuting ? See below
What about working enviroment? Not bad, nice guys here.

Medical Check: 1/2 day pretty through including blood work, eyes, ears, stress test on treadmill, brain wave, ultrasound, xrays, etc.

Interview: Nothing formal, just want to make sure you and your family will live in Seoul, but you get 8 continuous days off every other month, then after 6 months you can add vacation days to the beginning or end of those days. You get 30 days of vacation/year.

Simulator: Parc or Rishworth will send you the profile. No emergencies, just RTO, engine out after V1, single engine ILS, circle to land at Pusan (RKPK).

Rostering: You will only get 8 days off a month, 75 hours flying/month. Every other month 8 consecutive days. Layovers 3-4/month. 60 destinations, mostly out and backs to China and Japan. Cool destinations in SE Asia: Manila, Siem Reap, Hanoi, Saipan.

Salary: $10,500/month includes taxes paid and a furnished apt.

PM me if you want anything else.

bjlurzjet

[gibas]

Thank you for your express answer!!!:ok:

Looking forward to move to Asia.

[Skaz]

Does anybody have an email address for the HR department there ? Nothing is listed on the website. Thanks a lot !

[manincrz2937]

It is your choice but I guess it won't be late if you decide what to do after reading this article. You should know the structure of korean companies. it is very unique system. if one company collapse, all goes down together. regently they got so called "winner's curse". they took a fish way out of thier size. it would be able to eat Kumho Asiana alive.

your choice, your decision.

source:Kumho Industrial tumbles on financial loss worry | Global Industries | Autos & Transport | Reuters (http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKSEO32119520090629)

Kumho Industrial tumbles on financial loss worry

[EY763ER]

Does anyone have info on asiana flight crew recruitment?

any contacts....email addresses would be useful please!

Thanks in advance.

[varigflier]

Rishworth aviation has some contracts for Asiana.

VF

[evyjet]

Be aware if you join Asiana on a commuting contract. They lie to you regarding the ease of commuting. You only get 8 tickets per year, and you will commonly find flights overbooked, and unable you get home on the date you wish. Nearly every booking home you will be on the "waiting list". The whole process is far to long and painful for every flight home. You have to ring to book, then submit paperwork to get approval. Then when you get approval, you will take your reservation to ticketing, and then pay tax (it's not a "free" ticket) usually just over $100 depending on destination.

Until Asiana solve their ticketing problem, and offer commuters tickets home every month, they will always lose quality people to KA next door.KA pilots have no such issues (from what am aware) regarding geting their pilots home to their families.

The company itself is ok, but just painful getting home!

[Shaman]

Gibas,

Just got an email from parc

Did the jobs details give a maximum age for joining?

[flygirl319320]

Is there any other written test before sim check? Did any female pilot go for the interview? I have not seen anything about the age in Parc documents.
Thanks

[Shaman]

Thanks flygirl!

[flygirl319320]

I have found now on Rishw... age should be under 58....they have same conditions as Parc

[Shaman]

The reason I asked was because on Parc's website there is a statement that pilots can continue above age 60 so I wondered if below age 60 (rather than below 59) was now acceptable.

[I am here]

Guys,

This is a temp user name for me. My regular one is known and I am afraid and fear retribution for what I write here. bjlurzjet, manincrz2937, and evyjet are right on. I have been over here in Korea for over 4 years. In late 2005 and early 2006 Asiana hired 6 Americans, 3 Australians and about 15 Brazilians for the B-777. By mid April 2010 there will be 1 American, 1 Australian and 10 or 11, I think Brazilians. A main reason for the Americans and Australian exodus is what evyjet said. All three recruiters lie to you about the PS Business seats. Asiana blocks approximately 2 seats per flight to US and OZ form PS company business passes. This is for every one in the company. Everybody except the expat pilots bid there vacations a year in advance and reserve those seats. By the time your schedule is published 10 days before the month begins, almost all the time there a no “R” seats as they call them to go home on your off days. There are more flights and seats available to Southeast Asia, so most of the expats from those countries get home with out hassles. They said and the contact states they will buy 6 off line in Business tickets, but changed that to coach in September when all three recruiters caved in. That change mainly effected the Americans and some Brazilians. The reason we are expats is because we don’t live here. After busting your butt for 21 days, a 15 hour ride in coach home is should not be part of the package. They polled all the expats several hundred. Most never used off line so didn’t care and it was only aimed at the few Americans and Brazilians.

Over age 60, don’t count on it. The wording is vague. No promises. Several years ago when pilots age 58 plus had a chance to go elsewhere to fly to 65, Asiana ask these pilots to standby. KAL had raised their age to 63 and once KAL does something Asiana does it 6 months or so later. The first four expats that reach 60 were renewed to 63. Number 5’s birth month was the same as 3 or 4 Koreans who were strikers in 2005. So to punish these ex strikers, Asiana lowered their age to 60 for that month only and the expat got caught up in Asiana politics and was not renewed. Now they say 63. They want someone who can sign a three year contract before age 60. They won’t sign you past 60. At 60, and depending on the kimchi they had that day, they may renew your contract at a reduced pay rate and no pay raises to age 63 (that is, if there are no Koreans they want to punish who have the same birth month, and are reaching 60!).

Housing, watch out. An example, they found real cheap 3BR units 3 ½ years ago in an small factory industrial area, next to the train and subway tracks for 4 Americans and one Aussy. So much pollution in the air that you could not open your windows in mild weather even on the 22-24 floors. If you did you had a black soot over everything inside. The 8th floor unit shakes when the trains go by between 0530 to 0100. Over the past three years the area has been built up and it’s a nicer place with places to eat and entertainment. When the leases are due, Asiana won’t renew them and they are looking for even cheaper places. Some with no sidewalks or near-by subway service. If you have a car that might be OK, but can you imagine dragging your luggage and flight bag down the street waiting in the mud, rain or snow for a bus to go to a subway station or an airport bus limousine stop. You get notified by a phone or a knock on your door you have to move in two weeks with no other places available.

[I am here]

The Korean culture wouldn't allow a foreign woman to be their first female captain. I don't think have upgraded one yet.

[[email protected]]

I was one of the original American expats at Asiana, and can confirm it was extremely hard to get back and forth from home on days off/vacation. Just as described above - there were never any available seats even though the contract clearly stated positive space.

Contracts in Korea are one way. Recruiting agencies only pass on complaints about contractual abuses, but don't do anything more.

I posted the following under the Korean Air Expat Contract string in this section:

Asiana Airlines has been overly aggressive at docking pay for missed flights due to illness (no sick leave) or transportation problems after vacations – including docking the already scheduled successive and intervening days off. Put another way, they not only deduct for the lost flight time, but deduct the scheduled days off after the missed flight until the next flight flown. Contractual issues have been a problem with both Asiana and the airline service agencies. 6 Positive Space tickets on the Asiana system were part of the contract, but it turned out to be space available unless expat employees could compete with ALL Asiana employees on up to two seats per airplane a year in advance for reservations. That proved impossible, especially with flying schedules that often were unilaterally made and changed by Asiana. Parc Aviation and World Airline Services agencies have talked about resolving such issues, but nothing has ever been done.

From January 2006 until July 2007 I was an Asiana B-777 foreign Captain based in Seoul. Asiana improperly terminated my contract 7 months before I was to turn age 60, and incorrectly attributed the termination for a cured medical condition even though I was declared ready to return to work from a granted medical leave of absence. Asiana repeatedly asked about my expected return date and physical condition during this 6 week leave which was dutifully provided by me and my doctor. Only after I was medically cleared to return to duty did Asiana decide reinstatement was not worth the remaining time on my contract with an overdue 6 month recurrent training. The contractual 60 days notice of termination with pay was denied, as well as my request for transportation to collect belongings still in Seoul. I went on my own, and several middle management personnel apologized for the bad decision and treatment.

World Airline Services (W.A.S.) was my agent collecting monthly commissions, and they didn’t attempt to resolve this issue. W.A.S. also was 6 months late in sending contractually included medical insurance information after many requests both in 2006 and 2007. Contractually there was no deductible for such medical insurance, but in 2007 they unilaterally applied a $650 deductible. Beware of these pimp agencies once you are hired - they aren’t interested in you or your contract once they get on the commission bandwagon.

This isn’t sour grapes – I was not going to renew my contract even if age 60 were to be increased – enough of expat flying for me, although I left behind some good friends. It was no big deal leaving 7 months early, but thought this might help those looking at this job – caveat emptor.

P.S. My sign-in name is from a now invalid email address.

[evyjet]

Does anyone have any info on the Asiana 777 that had an incident in Paris recently?

[flyguykorea]

A little off topic, but here you go:

DATE: 22.01.2010 LOCAL TIME: - LOCATION: Paris-CDG Intl AP (LFPG) COUNTRY: France
AIRLINE: Asiana Airlines
(order an Airline Safety Check here) TYPE: Boeing 777-200 REGISTRATION: HL7597 C/N: 28686 AGE: 8 y + 5 m
OPERATION: ISP FLIGHT No.: OV 502 FROM: Paris-CDG TO: Seoul-ICN VIA: -
OCCUPANTS:
PAX: - CREW: -
FATALITIES:
PAX: 0 CREW: 0 OTHER: 0
INJURIES:
PAX: 0 CREW: 0 OTHER: 0
DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT: minor
During taxy for the departure runway at Charles de Gaulle international Airport, the right mai gear ran off the paved surface of the taxyway and became buried in mud. The flight was cancelled. Damage appeares to be light.

[60west]

does anyone have some fresh info on the Asiana screening?
In particular on the Air Law exam?

[I am here]

Your question has been on here for a long time. I am surprised that you have had no answer. Your recruiter will give you the gouge. When you first start you will have loyalty to your recruiter. Get over it ASAP. My pecking order for recruiters is PARC, Rishworth, and never WAS. They will love you and dump you after you sign their contract. You are no different to them than a whore in BKK, HKG, SGN PVG, PEK or any where else in Asia. Don't count on any support, but lip service!! Just my experience over here. As Denis said "Let the Buyer beware".
This is no difference from KAL or OZ.

[60west]

maybe no one is applying to Oz.
I'm with Parc, got all the agency info on the screening. Was looking for info from someone from inside, that had already gone through the interview.

[evyjet]

Why would anyone apply! The conditions are superior at Korean Air!

The management in Asiana don't seem to get it. I think if you have a heart beat and a Pilots Licence they will take anyone. I also don't see things improving here due to the parent company being in such a financial mess. They are bleeding Asiana for every cent they make.

Unless you're currently unemployed.....don't come here!!

[I am here]

Company morale is at a low point. Expats have no sick leave; your pay is docked, so usually you fly sick if you can get on the airplane. The Korean pilots here have a different system, but they loss money too, so they fly sick. One expat got food poisoning in BKK and hospitalized. The company called him at the hospital, asked him to leave and fly the airplane back to Seoul as he was still doubled up in pain, dehydrated and still having vomiting spasms. He told them politely to stick that unsafe idea where the sun doesn’t shine and was docked not for the missed flight segment, but for all the days until his next flight. He was not singled out, they do that docking to every pilot who sicks out. At Asiana the entire cabin staff of a flight are ALL punish if one of their team members calls in sick, even before the flight. Therefore, unless in a hospital or dead they come to work so not to have their colleagues punished. They get demerit points that affect their career progression. In Korean culture it seems that many do not to cover ones month when they sneeze. Watch out on the public transportation or in close quarters. It’s usually a left to right big broadcast sneeze or cough.

Asiana is making money with most of their flights full, but the parent company, Kumho has had a couple other divisions losing millions. So every member company of Kumho takes a hit for the bad decisions of some other member company executives. Almost everyone one at Asiana has been forced to take a month leave without pay. The cabin staff have been over 300 short each month and working their tails off. They very tired, some sick, fatigued and it is beginning to show in their previous award winning cabin service. The expats have been offered (strongly encouraged) to participate in this leave program. On fleets with a few surplus pilots, they call you and ask when are you going to participate in this voluntary program.



Like EVYJET said, “Unless you're currently unemployed.....don’t come here!!”

More later about the culture.

[AquiElJefe]

As "evyjet and I am here" have said this is not a pretty picture. I will be leaving soon with Korea a fond memory in my rear view mirror. The women were trim and not fat and most as they would said open minded. With the culture here and cut backs things are really in the toilet. London hotel LHR at the airport now and SYD to change soon all for being a team player with the Kumho debacle . BS.

[Flyaboy09]

I am here, it is so typical of the type of you. Take the job and when no one is watching bad mouth the very company that puts food on your table. My question to you sir/lady is why hold on to a position that you despise so much a position that would have been otherwise filled by someone who doesn't bitch and moan, and would rather enjoy working there at Asiana. Why can't you get your overrated hinee out of there and back to where ever the heck it belongs. Trust me you'll be doing us all a favor by freeing up the spot.http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/smilies2/eusa_wall.gif

[fullforward]

Were in the earth had you learnt this English??
What are you talking about?
Are you nuts?

[777vs330]

Now you know why they need expat pilots in Korea. To your question Fullforward, I think Flyaboy09 is probably a new FO whose dream is just like most Koreans, to migrate and live in the Great USA, where his limited English will require him to google translate his views (they would have loved to death if this is available for them to communicate with ATC). And truly, they will remind you in the flight deck that you should count your lucky stars that you're taken in and fly with one of the best airlines in the world. Well please don't ask where they got it from, but everything in Korea is the best ok.
They do have the point there though, if you ain't happy, you should just NOT apply or resign. So, for anyone interested in joining any carrier in Korea; learn to like the long silence if you're in the long haul and be prepared to be told off.

[t_jet]

Just been called for screening for B747-400 FO based in Seoul. I was wondering if any guys that go there on the FO contract get the opportunity to upgrade at Asiana ? I asked the recruiter but they wouldn't say yes or no.

[jet grande]

no upgrades for expat F/O, unless they change the rules in the future

[evyjet]

Upgrades in Asiana?? Not a chance!

Sorry guys, but in Korea that's the way it is. If you're waiting or hoping it will change, I suggest learning more about Korean Culture and the rate at which things change here. You will save yourself years of frustration!

[AquiElJefe]

I was going to chime in, but evyjet said my sentiments. A foreign pilot F/O upgrade in Korea will not happen in his life time. Sorry t_jet. Just like they will not hire a woman DEC.

As far as you, Flyaboy, fullforward and 777v330 have you pegged. (interpret this). All the expats and Ab Initio F/O's know who "I am here" is at OZ or AAR. You must be a ring knocker who is really not a level 4 in English. You know what I am talking about.

"I am here" is playing the game and has learned to adapt to a Sh**ty situation and does not "bitch and moan". He has just stated the not so popular facts. Nobody, but maybe you enjoy working for Asiana. It is just a job. Kool-aid is everywhere, so swallow it. The Korean culture has wonderful and positive good sides, but is not indicative or adequate for any CRM if it even exists at Asiana. I know he will not leave for your convenience, so live with it. He will even let you fly a leg that is not ICN inbound and you might even learn something about flying airplanes from him that is outside of SOP.

So enjoy your meal Mr. K**

Asiana, from what I have been told has not been able to attract or recruit any Western (first language English pilots). There must be a reason. What do you think?

[60west]

AquiElJefe

"Asiana, from what I have been told has not been able to attract or recruit any Western (first language English pilots). There must be a reason. What do you think?"

not quite, of the 2 320 DEC that completed trng a couple of weeks ago, one was european.
Two 77 DEC are about to complete their trng, both european, another "westerner" just joined.

Sure their application box ain't as full as that in Kal, they might be going for "quality" instead of "quantity":-))

[evyjet]

60 west
"they might be going for "quality" instead of "quantity""

Are you :mad::mad::mad: kidding?? HAHAHA

And AquiElJefe stated "first language english pilots". The gentlemen you refer to are NOT first language English Pilots!! There are very few of them, and most will be gone very soon!

[AquiElJefe]

60 West,

I hadn't heard or followed the narrow body airplanes, so I may stand corrected. As evyjet re-iterated "First Language English" Only European country I know of is UK and Ireland that first language is English. The new Europeans are not from there. Where is the Westerner guy from that you mentioned?

[richard III]

Hi all:
Any actual 777 drivers with Asiana? I might be looking to move on next year. I've seen only rishworth advertise for 777 in Asiana, and I would not like to talk to them. Parc looks like the better choice but nothing there on 777.
Would very much appreciate info on their package. As for the commuting, planning to base the family in Thailand. Grateful for any objective info

[mauijim]

With KAL being sued by local pilots unon, I am now seriously looking at Asiana, B747-4.
Appreciate heads up on interview process, flt scheds, management and Asiana attitudes toward expats.

Considering living in Seoul for a few years, is this a good idea ?

Thanks guys.

[captain_adel]

please send me any information about asiana air

[captain_adel]

please give me all information about the interview i have one next 2 weeks

[captain_adel]

and tell me about the captains CRM

[Cyberbird]

latest news from Seoul:

Korean MTLM (Ministry for Transport bla-di-blah) rejected Work-Visas for westerners - who have already been gone through the multi-stage selection process: Interview, SIM-screening, psychometrics, medical checks done, plus passed the dreadful Korean Air-Law-Exam;:ugh:

now it seems, that the MTLM has succumbered under the increasing pressure from the KAL union pilots - and refused a whole course of B 777 skippers (recruited via Parc and Rishworth) their work-visas!

Easy solution for ASIANA:

they wheeled the Skippers and F/O's (all rated and current on B 777) to the airport / next flight out of the country - Sorry guys ! Hasta la vista ! :yuk:

[CockpitSeeker]

Hi guys and gals,

I saw the mention of WAS (World Airline Services) a couple of times in this thread and was wondering if those that had an agreement with them could step forward (mp) for contract details et al.

I made due diligence with my "homework" already on the topic but need extra nuggets of info for research.

Thanks in advance ;)

[Samba Anaconda]

Why is OZ214 so far from wannabes' minds when they think of flying for OZ?

Deadheading on any of their flights?

[TugaFly]

Any updates on the Asiana interview process?

What's the best company to work with? Aviationcv or Rishwort?

Looking at the 767 contract with Asiana

[pilotxaq]

Also came across the Asiana 767 Captain by CRW (Crew Resources Worldwide) via AviationCV.com and also on CAE Parc. Is this still worth looking into? Have any of the old issues been resolved, or are the CRM and general company attitude still poor towards expats (docking pay etc)? What are the rosters like for the 767? Any information would be appreciated.

[FlexToga]

same here, I am very interested into get more info regarding interview/screenings/environment.... for A-320 Captain Position.

[av8tordude]

same here, I am very interested into get more info regarding interview/screenings/environment.... for A-320 Captain Position.

The screening itself will involve the following:

- Simulator Check
- Medical Check
- Interview (Documents Check)

Simulator Check:

PREPARATION ENG START (Abnormal start)
NORMAL T/O
RNAV APPROACH - RNAV RWY33R APP & L/D
REJECTED TAKEOFF
ENGINE FAILURE AFTER V1
SINGLE ENGINE APPROACH & LANDING
VISUAL APP
NON-NORMAL ITEMS
W/S, TCAS during CLB
DIRECT LAW (2ADR/IR, dual HYD, 2SFCC fail, 2FAC)
LANDING - Cross wind landing (WX by IP)
PAX EVACUATION - PAX EVACUATION
OTHERS - Standard procedure and call-outs

Medical Check:

The following are some of the medical tests that are carried out:

Blood Pressure, Pulse Rate
Tympanometry, Audiometry
Visual Acuity, IOP Tonometry, Fundus, Colour Vision, Heterophoria, Field of Vision
Spirometry
Chest X-Ray
EKG
Exercise Treadmill Test
Abdominal Sonograph
Electro Encephalography
Blood & Urine Test
Interview with Doctor

Note: If they discover anything abnormalities, it does not mean you fail the exam. They will ask you to get it cleared in your own country at your own expense before you can be hired. Once you get medically cleared by your doctor, send the documents to the company for further review and If accepted, you will be hired. For those who are worried about the BMI, there are guys who had abnormal BMI and was accepted but was told to start a diet to get their BMI within acceptable limits.

Interveiw:

The interview is short and informal. Asiana will want to know a little about you and your experiences. They will ask the reason you would like to join Asiana and ask you do you have any questions about their company. There weren't any Asiana Pilots present during the interview and no technical question asked. They will check your documents to make sure they are acceptable for the civil and aviation authorities. The documents listed below.

Passport
ATPL
Licence verification letter
ICAO English Certificate (if any)
Valid Class 1 Medical
No Incident/Accident Record
No Criminal/Police Record
Most Recent SIM/Route Check Record (LPC/OPC)
Logbook
CRM Record (if any)
10 Passport size Photographs

[pilotxaq]

Thank you @av8tordude, very detailed and informative for me, even tho that was specifically aimed at the A320 process. I would like to think that the 767 process would be similar, if you or anyone familiar would be able to say?

Thanks again!

[av8tordude]

Thank you @av8tordude, very detailed and informative for me, even tho that was specifically aimed at the A320 process. I would like to think that the 767 process would be similar, if you or anyone familiar would be able to say?

Thanks again!

Its exactly the same! 3 guys in my interview group. A320, B777, B767

[pilotxaq]

Its exactly the same! 3 guys in my interview group. A320, B777, B767
Awesome!! Thanks again!

[FlexToga]

The screening itself will involve the following:

- Simulator Check
- Medical Check
- Interview (Documents Check)

Simulator Check:

PREPARATION ENG START (Abnormal start)
NORMAL T/O
RNAV APPROACH - RNAV RWY33R APP & L/D
REJECTED TAKEOFF
ENGINE FAILURE AFTER V1
SINGLE ENGINE APPROACH & LANDING
VISUAL APP
NON-NORMAL ITEMS
W/S, TCAS during CLB
DIRECT LAW (2ADR/IR, dual HYD, 2SFCC fail, 2FAC)
LANDING - Cross wind landing (WX by IP)
PAX EVACUATION - PAX EVACUATION
OTHERS - Standard procedure and call-outs

Medical Check:

The following are some of the medical tests that are carried out:

Blood Pressure, Pulse Rate
Tympanometry, Audiometry
Visual Acuity, IOP Tonometry, Fundus, Colour Vision, Heterophoria, Field of Vision
Spirometry
Chest X-Ray
EKG
Exercise Treadmill Test
Abdominal Sonograph
Electro Encephalography
Blood & Urine Test
Interview with Doctor

Note: If they discover anything abnormalities, it does not mean you fail the exam. They will ask you to get it cleared in your own country at your own expense before you can be hired. Once you get medically cleared by your doctor, send the documents to the company for further review and If accepted, you will be hired. For those who are worried about the BMI, there are guys who had abnormal BMI and was accepted but was told to start a diet to get their BMI within acceptable limits.

Interveiw:

The interview is short and informal. Asiana will want to know a little about you and your experiences. They will ask the reason you would like to join Asiana and ask you do you have any questions about their company. There weren't any Asiana Pilots present during the interview and no technical question asked. They will check your documents to make sure they are acceptable for the civil and aviation authorities. The documents listed below.

Passport
ATPL
Licence verification letter
ICAO English Certificate (if any)
Valid Class 1 Medical
No Incident/Accident Record
No Criminal/Police Record
Most Recent SIM/Route Check Record (LPC/OPC)
Logbook
CRM Record (if any)
10 Passport size Photographs


Thank you very much for the detailed information, how is the ground course? do they require you to pass a theoretical exam for local license? what about the line training? how many sectors it takes?

[av8tordude]

how is the ground course?

Ground course is like any other airline. All exams are required to passed with 80%
You will have to take an ATPL conversion checkide ( SIM - LPC), and if you are not successful, you MAY be given another chance at company discretion.
There is a Company Checkride and Gov't (MOLIT) checkride. Company Checkride, if not successful, may be given again at company discretion. However the Gov't checkride is a 1-time event.

do they require you to pass a theoretical exam for local license?

The airline provides materials during training and 5 days ground school to assist with passing the CAA (MOLIT) exam for the Korean Pilot License. If you are not successful on two (2) attemts, the company send you home to study more and if you want to try again, it will be at your own expense. However, if you are not successful, you will not be given another chance.

what about the line training? how many sectors it takes?

Training is rigorous, particularly for the Captains since some of the FO are not experience. The company rely heavily on the Captains for their experience. During line training, it has been emphasis the company is not too focus on Expats flying skills and experience (more secondary), but heavily on Asiana Procedures and Call-outs. Because of the language barriers that exist between Korean Pilots and Expats is the reason why I think they extensively hit hard on SOP and Call-outs. This is the "Common" language that MUST exist while operation as a crew for CRM. You will have 16-sectors (Training), 2-sectors (Company Check), and 2-sectors (Gov't Check)

[mcmanos]

Thank you very much av8tordude.

Are you a CPT or a FO ? Did nobody got technical questions during the interview ?

It seems that the training is the most difficult part to pass.
For the exams do you have example questions to study,quizzes like for the atpl ? Or is it everything based on "you study this" and then we exam your knowledge?

Good luck for you gvt check and wish you safe flights in Asiana :)

[flyboylipad]

Gday everyone,

Quick question

Is there any way around the 4 year First Officer experience requirment needed to apply? Is this pretty much a solid requriment for licensing with the Korean Civil Aviation authorities?

Have they been lenient with these in past?

Any inputs will be appreciated?

[desertcamel]

Gday everyone,

Quick question

Is there any way around the 4 year First Officer experience requirment needed to apply? Is this pretty much a solid requriment for licensing with the Korean Civil Aviation authorities?

Have they been lenient with these in past?

Any inputs will be appreciated?

Unfortunately, its the Authority who imposed the Requirement.

[desertcamel]

Thank you very much av8tordude.

Are you a CPT or a FO ? Did nobody got technical questions during the interview ?

It seems that the training is the most difficult part to pass.
For the exams do you have example questions to study,quizzes like for the atpl ? Or is it everything based on "you study this" and then we exam your knowledge?

Good luck for you gvt check and wish you safe flights in Asiana :)

No tech questions during the interview. Its more like a casual meeting and presenting all the documents. And making sure that all documents are valid to facilitate your work visa permits.

once you get in, Monday is always the 1st day of joining so the coming saturday is always the Airlaw examination. If you fail this one, you have to wait for the next months exam date.
So the 1st week will involved Airlaw reviews during Grnd school.
the next set of checks throughout the course you will expect involves the ff.
Sim check
Cat 2/3 check in the Sim
Company Line check after IOE(12 to 18 sectors)
Molit Knowledge test(with the local Aviation authority)
Molit Flight check (Final , prior release to the Line)

depending on which fleet you are in, training to completion may take 2 and a half to 4 months.