Training For The Future.

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

How do you fancy flying these? From yesterday's Truth Central (except I'm sure it wasn't there yesterday): Ministry of Defence | Defence News | Equipment and Logistics | Schoolboys "design" RAF's next training aircraft (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/SchoolboysdesignRafsNextTrainingAircraft.htm)

Schoolboys "design" RAF's next training aircraft.

By designing aircraft which could be used to train the fast jet military pilots of the future, teams of teenagers from a Birmingham school and a Welsh Air Training Corps (ATC) Squadron have jointly won the RAF's Schools Aerospace Challenge.

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and

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Our much respected fellow PPRuNer, Mr Farley said:


Chief Examiner John Farley, a former Harrier test pilot, said:
"Their designs had cost, adaptability and the environment as their core. Both winning entries were most impressive and not unrealistic future aircraft proposals. For the first time we had to call a draw.
"The highlight of the summer school at Cranfield University, where the top teams developed their ideas, was a visit by Hawks of RAF Valley, and the chance to fly in an RAF Jetstream aircraft used to train flight engineers."

The transmission for the Hawk may re-learn the lessons of the Bell P39.

A serious question about the Kestrel (aren't they supposed to hover?); would there be an advantage in shrouding the fan?

[NutLoose]

Cool all reminds me of the Trent Meatbox

http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/england/gloster_trent-meteor.jpg

[CirrusF]

A serious question about the Kestrel (aren't they supposed to hover?); would there be an advantage in shrouding the fan?


It would be quieter, and there would be less danger to ground crew, but it would be less efficient.

[VinRouge]

Could be interesting if the stude over rotates on TO or flares into the stall though.... :rolleyes:

[Modern Elmo]

The transmission for the Hawk may re-learn the lessons of the Bell P39.

Apparently the worst flaw of the P39 and P63 was poor spin rcovery ... center of gravity too far aft and not enough rudder authority.

That Hawk should have a large-ish caliber gun firing through the propeller hub. ... One of the good points of the AirCobra and KingCobra.

The Reds used a lot of 'em back in the day:




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[BEagle]

Apart from the little lad in the middle, who looks hardly old enough to be in long trousers, the age of these students surprised me - I thought that they would have been considerably younger.

Good effort though. But the rear mounted fan design appears to have left little room for canard actuators as the pivot point seems to run through the cockpit.

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

I also thought that about the PFCs on the foreplanes. I also thought how interesting the flow through the intakes would be at various pitch commands.

(I also wish you'd stayed in the MPA Mess bar long enough for me to buy you a drink!)

[Jetex Jim]

Could be interesting if the stude over rotates on TO or flares into the stall though.... :rolleyes:

Yes, I should think the main gear would need to be quite long.as with this DO335.

And not a bad idea to add a bit of fin down there to save the prop!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Do335.png