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veloo maniam
24th Oct 2008, 10:07
Hello Guardians of the sky....I am looking for a link to learn how to vector acft onto the final approach segment.Single rwy ops with about 15 acft within 40NM radius.Help appreciated.:ok:

Scooby Don't
24th Oct 2008, 10:33
You'd better slow everyone down to 180 kts for a start.... :E

airac
24th Oct 2008, 12:51
Are we doing this piecemeal?:rolleyes:

Vectoring 15 A/C within 40 NMs ( types unknown)
1,Sow everyone down to 180 kts

2 Alllow for an A/C descent rate of 1000' in 3nms,

3, ?:D

hit_the_deck
24th Oct 2008, 15:32
A few tricks I know of are as follows. We'll start with the obvious, never establish them at an angle greater than 30 degrees. Have an idea which altitude they should be at for their distance from the field. I usually do 3000ft and stablish em at 10dme but when things get busy that doesn't work so look at a few charts and look at the descent planning part but if its anywhere over 13dme I give it 4000ft and anything above 15 I give 5000ft. Also, take into account the A/C types, for example you would give an atr much less turning space than an a380.

Also, if there are waypoints in this simulation in the right places, take a look to see if you can get an aircraft to leave waypoint XXXXX on a heading which it can establish frrom. Ie for Dublin, aircraft coming in on the L975 to LIFFY, get themt o leave LIFFY at hdg 260 and they establishe nicely just outside 10 miles, now I'm awarre you're probably not sure of ythat airspace but it's a good example.

Hope that helps you.

DK.

veloo maniam
24th Oct 2008, 15:59
Thanks guys but is there any website that I can log on to
for simulator practices?:ok:

NeoDude
24th Oct 2008, 17:14
This (http://www.londoncontrol.com/) is about as close as you're going to get.

bencoder
24th Oct 2008, 18:22
ATC-SIM -- a web-based air traffic control simulator (http://www.atc-sim.com/) is a rubbishy in-browser one... but fun for 5 minutes
SSS - Simon's Simulation Software (http://www.acc.umu.se/%7Esimsoft/download.php) is a downloadable one, uses voice recognition and is fairly good for a free simulator.. you can get various tma's from the website.

The one mentioned above, London Control (http://www.londoncontrol.com/), is probably the best, as said.

veloo maniam
25th Oct 2008, 05:45
NeoDude and Bencoder...thnxs for the link.Appreciate ur help.:ok:

Booville Monroe
25th Oct 2008, 11:26
Try this: Visual Vectoring (http://www.visualvectoring.com). It will not only let you practice approach sequencing but teach you how to do it.

veloo maniam
26th Oct 2008, 11:50
Hi Booville..this site is great mate.thnks a million.:ok:

doublewhiskey
26th Oct 2008, 11:56
Check the VV Approach web page. It has been in use in Hong Kong as a training tool for more than a year. Students selected for approach training are provided with this computer based training program. Radar vectoring theory lessons, demos and a simulator with a set of generic exercises using voice recognition are all part of the program. The developers are capable of providing site specific exercises for advanced students too. It really is an excellent method learning Approach Control.

RADARVECTORING
29th Oct 2008, 00:51
The VV sim is by FAR the best learning aid for obtaining/developing radar skills that I have seen to date!

If you want to learn vectoring, sequencing and proper use of speed control this is the most comprehensive learning aid I have EVER seen.. and will help anyone who wants to improve their techniques and skills.

Just today a seasoned ATCO at my unit (more than 15years civil experience and several military) learn't how to better set spacing and easily judge when to turn aircraft for exact spacing... Following this we will be obtaining yet another VV Approach radar sim.:D

TrafficTraffic
29th Oct 2008, 09:11
It needs to be bought? For individuals it isnt available?

TT

bencoder
29th Oct 2008, 14:30
It needs to be bought? For individuals it isnt available?

TT

If you look at the site, it says they have a home learning edition that's currently in beta testing. It will need to be bought though, when it's available.

ron83
29th Oct 2008, 20:12
does anyone know estimated price for this product?;)