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Fart Master
24th Oct 2008, 04:22
I see EGT has managed to get another 1st flight again, 73hrs in LAX. Call me cynical but wouldn't it have been better to put a 'local' i.e. Ameican on it as we used to do for 1st flights:cool:

Gee.... and look who his sidekick is as well:=

I wonder who he brown-nosed this time:mad:

pool
24th Oct 2008, 04:54
This will be some display in LAX! Maybe he will question some ATC instructions there as well ....

At least we will be able to consume some insight to LAX and/or polar operation right from the horses mouth. Information that would have been easily obtainable from guys who have flown in and over these regions many times before. Has any one of such collegues been contacted or asked for some tips?? Gosh - no way, Emirates always knows better, until the next couple of FCIs, who then turn the clock back to professionalism that was readily available among its corps.:ugh:

It usually takes about a half a year to get EK out of the laughing stock at new destinations. Just about when the more regular guys start getting flights to it.:E

Instant Hooligan
24th Oct 2008, 07:22
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NTM
24th Oct 2008, 09:57
LAX is not that bad.
ORD and ATL that's something else.

Later

puff m'call
25th Oct 2008, 14:19
What a great envoy for EK, let him screw it up and look like the pratt he is!!

efatnas
25th Oct 2008, 14:31
Add Newark, if you are into witnessing a mess.

MrMachfivepointfive
25th Oct 2008, 16:06
Before EK started GRU, flight ops invited all Brasilian pilots for their expertise.
We learned of storms of fire, supersonic jet streams and daily +++++++TSRA up to space shuttle flight levels, plus mongoloid ATC. According to the experts every other flight into GRU was doomed. The body count unbelievable.
Ya'Allah! - what did we waste fuel, believing those 'pilots'.
As it stands - GRU is one of the most benign destinations in the network.
The rumour goes that after the Wright Brothers and before EK one or two other airlines have successfully operated in and out of LAX.
My dear 'LA' and 'Polar' experts: If I want to design the perfect diaper, I will not ask the baby.

RFusmoke
25th Oct 2008, 17:08
you cant get a set of golf clubs thru a US airport but you can get a webcam of the atc proc and the times of arrivals and depts on the web!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in the ME!!!!!!!

lads...piece of tarmac to piece of tarmac whether is 24 hrs or 4 hrs busy or not.

we all in ME too long??? my building bigger than your building??

HABIB

Fart Master
25th Oct 2008, 18:47
RFusmoke Noooo.......... SP aka EGT is just a bit of a Tube... sorry make that a complete Tube, and has shown repeatedly that he abuses his position. There have been threads on how he has brought guys careers to a dead stop with his stupid interview questions, YET, he is well known for his screw ups...... If you work for EK go along to his Ivory Palace one day and ask him about Go-arounds:mad::mad::E

Nothing to do with Buildings or whatever :confused::confused:

Gulf News
26th Oct 2008, 10:47
As it stands - GRU is one of the most benign destinations in the network.


I take it that you operate this flight regularly Mr M5.5 "office boy". Do you get play Flight Sim on company time or do it from home.

Either way stick to commenting on things you know something about, which should keep you quite quiet.

Sheikh Your Bootie
26th Oct 2008, 11:34
Pretty typical of most Firsts at any airline i have ever worked at, are nabbed by management types. Shame its EGT and that ring a ding ding tw@t sidekick habibs.

I hope EGT and all have done their Pelesys study :yuk: on Polar and LAX ops :hmm:

Fart Master, good one :ok::E

SyB :zzz:

Wiley
26th Oct 2008, 11:54
MrMachFivePointFive, (a pretty apt handle for a management stooge, BTW - a little over half the speed achieved every work day by the pilots you seem so keen to disparage), you've blown your cover so thoroughly with the few posts you've made to date on matters pertaining to EK that I think it's time you asked your boss, JH, if he'll allow you to dispense with your current (too slow?) identity and start again with a fresh 'handle' for your campaign to publicise the company line and tell us all what a cushy job we have.

Do they pay you for you time online out of office hours?

hans_airbus
27th Oct 2008, 05:49
Who is EGT

GoreTex
27th Oct 2008, 13:26
EGT= east german ****

I remember when he came to dubai and was begging for help for the EK interview

EGGW
27th Oct 2008, 15:00
No outing please gents and keep it civil, if you can. :=

EGGW

Gulf News
27th Oct 2008, 17:25
EGGW.

OK Boss. I agree, the rules are clear, no outing. I only heard the term EGT two days ago and as soon as it was put in context I could see it fit 100% However, somebody has to do the job and if he wants to be H__sans boy then let him be. The odd stint in the limelight (such as a first operation) is the only joy he will get in life. My only experience of him was when he flew as an F.O.with me and he wasn't much good at that.

I do have a problem however with this mrmachfivepointfive character, and I think that you as a moderator should possibly consign his posts to the spotters and dispatchers forums which are this persons areas of expertise. I did a quick search back and have highlighted below some of his or hers more remarkable contributions of late. Mrmachfivepointfive is an EK employee, no doubt (and many of us know who it is) but with posts such as these has no place on a pilots forum.

Guys - please get your infos right, or I ll have to book mark pprune under 'spam'.
Uncontained APU failure on takeoff. Debris took out two hydraulic systems plus some air duct plumbing which later on caused the smoke.
The idiot who got injured was a pissed up brit (yeah - I know: stereotype) who despite cabin crew warnings made his way to the loo during takeoff.
After they patched him up and a sobering nap, he claims he wanted to warn crew because he heard 'noises'.


Pure and utter uninformed bullsh_t that the subsequent ASR proved later that week.

Then this little gem which I was surprised didn't raise a few more hackles.

If you love flying, pulling some Gs and taking the crate upside down - forget about becoming a professional pilot. You will be frustrated by the stupidity of the job and your idiot colleagues who are just so full of themselves.
If you are 4'11'', or you have an IQ equal to the room temperature in F but long for the social standing of a heart transplant surgeon in exchange for 1% of the surgeons training - If you also don't mind a very simple machine doing a better job than you and wearing itchy shirts with 'clip on' ties- professional pilot is the job for you.


There are more but that says it all really.Being a mod is not an easy job I well know, especially when you have a job such as ours however it is a responsibility you accepted when you took on the role. In a nutshell. We will keep it nice if you curtail the bullsh_t.

Fred Garvin M.P.
28th Oct 2008, 06:33
Any bets on how EGT did on fuel conservation? I'm willing to bet he uploaded fuel. Does that mean he will call himself? Think he wore his flying gloves all the way to LA?

typhoonpilot
28th Oct 2008, 07:50
New destination, new route, ULR with chances for inaccurate wind and weather forecast. Would be entirely appropriate to upload some extra fuel. I know exactly what it was and it wasn't too much considering those factors.

We burned 3 tonnes over the plan on the way back. That was mostly due to different winds than forecast plus the wonderful 25 mile final for 30R.


TP

Thazright
28th Oct 2008, 10:13
Guys despite a few valid arguments posted in this thread, most are just pure venting on your behalf. LAX might be the 4th busiest airport (aircraft movements) in the world but it is still one of the easiest to operate into (like most other USA destinations - yeah, the yanks got it right!). Now stop your whining and get over it. It's not rocket science. Oh and by the way, for those of you who are going there for the first time - oh look, it's in the OM-C. Imagine that! Spoon fed... come on boys (and girls), find something real to whine about. :E

pool
28th Oct 2008, 10:44
OK, got your message thatzright.
By the way, Sanaa is in the OM-C aswell, piece of cake.
Best practice all the way ....

Bypass ratio
28th Oct 2008, 12:37
I am operating into LAX next month and I am having trouble trying to sleep. I mean, there hasn't been any pelesys training and it just seems all too hard, new airport, new procedures, new ATC. I have been listening to ATC Live as much as possible but just can't get my head around all this non-standard phraseology. Is there a video I can watch of aircraft landing on Youtube? I have studied all of the photos that were put on the crew portal and am very familiar with what the Control Tower looks like, the Hotspot exit AA 24R, the Taxiway lines, the Runway markings for 7R/25L, the no turn before shoreline sign, the Fuel Dump, stop signs for tow in gates, remote parking gates (good facilities),congested ramp area with ground vehicles, the Fire Station, Gate 101, ground power and air available at all gates, airport perimeter fence and security post and last but not least the airport radar.:D

Thazright
28th Oct 2008, 12:43
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Right on Bypass, right on!!! Nice looking tower though, no?!?! Hey guess you noticed the "yellow" taxiway markings too. I wander if their hotspots ooze steam like ours do??

Thazright
28th Oct 2008, 12:47
The only real hotspot there is when you have to be screened by the TSA... bend over and say ahhhh... (latex snaps in the background). Hey what's that smell...? Hotspot sir, hotspot!!

pool
28th Oct 2008, 15:10
Good one BR. With TR you seem both made of Chuck's stuff, right on!

However:

- as long as we hear ekboys asking for non standard levels between Lahore and Urumqi, when even the allmighty OM-C says 10min radio silence is possible, plus you change f to m ...
- as long as we read ASRs whining about no contact with Mumbai HF ...
- as long as we hear ekboys desperatly trying for 30min to ask Mogadischu for a 5 mile deviation due WX ...

... I think some kind of route introduction would make sense for the newcomers -> the real meaning of "best practice".

Most certainly though I would exempt you two Chucks from this, you don't need it ...

nolimitholdem
28th Oct 2008, 15:45
However:

- as long as we hear ekboys asking for non standard levels between Lahore and Urumqi, when even the allmighty OM-C says 10min radio silence is possible, plus you change f to m ...
- as long as we read ASRs whining about no contact with Mumbai HF ...
- as long as we hear ekboys desperatly trying for 30min to ask Mogadischu for a 5 mile deviation due WX ...

Now now, don't pick on the DEC's...the FO's they fly with do their best, but some people just can't be taught..."we never had this on the -37 in Arkansas!"...

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