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Fission
25th Sep 2008, 08:18
I recall there used to be a couple of companies advertising in the flightsafety mag for producing / modifying operations manuals.
Anybody remember who they were / have any experience with them ?
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Fizzy
bizzybody
25th Sep 2008, 10:02
lol onemore it sounds like you work for CASA:} just kidding.
What type of operation are you lookin at doing. Be real careful of these generic ops manual people will write for you.
PM if you want a hand with one
ozoilfield
25th Sep 2008, 11:52
Be real careful of these generic ops manual people will write for you.
Is that why CASA have been pushing for a "standard" OM for years? CASA also spent a lot of your and my money trying to get a "built your own OM" with CASA supplied standard text on the AOC site. Didn't work.
If you want good advice, ask your local friendly:) CASA FOI.
Fission
25th Sep 2008, 11:53
Onemore - thanks for the links, they're the reason I'm asking :}
A few years ago I would have written them, but now I have a life... (Hold your tongue Puff :E )
This is a new op so I just want a shelf manual matched to the types we're going to be using and compliant with CASA requirements.
My last company used one and it did save time.
Oh - and as an ISO 9000 auditor, I used to love catching out those who were too prescriptive over their procedures as onemore points out :)
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Fizzy
Johnny_56
25th Sep 2008, 12:43
hey guys,
Out of interest what is the cost and time frame involved in getting a new ops manual off the ground so to speak, sounds like you guys know a bit about them.
Cheers
Snatch
25th Sep 2008, 12:57
Two answers to that question.
We got a simple AWK operation AOC last year - $4500 and three months for CASA with no problems, a good Ops manual and and experienced Chief Pilot.
We added ME CHTR and a PPL/CPL/NVFR flying school this year - made the application in January, approved at end of July. Again, it was a "good" application but because we had to write new CBT materials for the flying school it was a lot of work. Cost us $6800 in CASA fees. :hmm:
The Ops Manual was written in-house based on previous experience, other manuals we have used in our careers, and some other **** we just made up :ok:
It isn't an easy process to go through but with some knowledge and experience (not nescessarily all in Aviation) it can be easier.
Many of the old-timers don't really seem to understand the purpose behind an Operations Manual - they are the guys who say "CASA just wants us to put the company letterhead on top of the CARs and CAOs and call THAT the ops manual! :ugh: Another bottom-dwelling operator I know doesn't realise how close he came to losing his AOC due to his inability to provide a decent Ops Manual :uhoh:
thunderbird five
26th Sep 2008, 03:26
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