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Ops Manuals
I recall there used to be a couple of companies advertising in the flightsafety mag for producing / modifying operations manuals.
Anybody remember who they were / have any experience with them ?
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lol onemore it sounds like you work for CASA
just kidding.
What type of operation are you lookin at doing. Be real careful of these generic ops manual people will write for you.
PM if you want a hand with one
just kidding.What type of operation are you lookin at doing. Be real careful of these generic ops manual people will write for you.
PM if you want a hand with one
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Be real careful of these generic ops manual people will write for you.
If you want good advice, ask your local friendly
CASA FOI.
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Onemore - thanks for the links, they're the reason I'm asking
A few years ago I would have written them, but now I have a life... (Hold your tongue Puff
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This is a new op so I just want a shelf manual matched to the types we're going to be using and compliant with CASA requirements.
My last company used one and it did save time.
Oh - and as an ISO 9000 auditor, I used to love catching out those who were too prescriptive over their procedures as onemore points out
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A few years ago I would have written them, but now I have a life... (Hold your tongue Puff
)This is a new op so I just want a shelf manual matched to the types we're going to be using and compliant with CASA requirements.
My last company used one and it did save time.
Oh - and as an ISO 9000 auditor, I used to love catching out those who were too prescriptive over their procedures as onemore points out
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hey guys,
Out of interest what is the cost and time frame involved in getting a new ops manual off the ground so to speak, sounds like you guys know a bit about them.
Cheers
Out of interest what is the cost and time frame involved in getting a new ops manual off the ground so to speak, sounds like you guys know a bit about them.
Cheers
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Two answers to that question.
We got a simple AWK operation AOC last year - $4500 and three months for CASA with no problems, a good Ops manual and and experienced Chief Pilot.
We added ME CHTR and a PPL/CPL/NVFR flying school this year - made the application in January, approved at end of July. Again, it was a "good" application but because we had to write new CBT materials for the flying school it was a lot of work. Cost us $6800 in CASA fees.
The Ops Manual was written in-house based on previous experience, other manuals we have used in our careers, and some other **** we just made up
It isn't an easy process to go through but with some knowledge and experience (not nescessarily all in Aviation) it can be easier.
Many of the old-timers don't really seem to understand the purpose behind an Operations Manual - they are the guys who say "CASA just wants us to put the company letterhead on top of the CARs and CAOs and call THAT the ops manual!
Another bottom-dwelling operator I know doesn't realise how close he came to losing his AOC due to his inability to provide a decent Ops Manual 
We got a simple AWK operation AOC last year - $4500 and three months for CASA with no problems, a good Ops manual and and experienced Chief Pilot.
We added ME CHTR and a PPL/CPL/NVFR flying school this year - made the application in January, approved at end of July. Again, it was a "good" application but because we had to write new CBT materials for the flying school it was a lot of work. Cost us $6800 in CASA fees.
The Ops Manual was written in-house based on previous experience, other manuals we have used in our careers, and some other **** we just made up
It isn't an easy process to go through but with some knowledge and experience (not nescessarily all in Aviation) it can be easier.
Many of the old-timers don't really seem to understand the purpose behind an Operations Manual - they are the guys who say "CASA just wants us to put the company letterhead on top of the CARs and CAOs and call THAT the ops manual!
Another bottom-dwelling operator I know doesn't realise how close he came to losing his AOC due to his inability to provide a decent Ops Manual
