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micromalc
17th Sep 2008, 18:28
Hi All,
Got to take my friend and his wife flying this weekend and have just discovered that she is 5 months pregnant. Will she be okay to fly or should she get advice from a doctor.....any ideas

S-Works
17th Sep 2008, 19:03
Just took my friends 7 month pregnant wife to the Guernsey Air Rally without problems.

PlasticPilot
17th Sep 2008, 19:21
How high to do intend to climb ? Hypoxia can be a question, if you fly above FL100.

In doubt, ask a doctor.

PompeyPaul
17th Sep 2008, 19:30
I just refused to fly with a pregnant passenger. I don't doubt that < 3000ft it probably won't be a problem, I just didn't want to put a pregnant woman through a forced landing. How awful would you feel if you had to perform that particular manoeuvre ?

I said as soon as she had the baby then we'd go flying :ok:

Shunter
17th Sep 2008, 19:36
Will she be okay to flyYou make her sound like she's got the plague or something...

If she's anything like the women I know she'd probably be extremely offended if you declined to take her flying just because she's pregnant!

PS. PompeyPaul - do you always do forced landings, or just when you have pregnant women on board?

DavidHoul52
17th Sep 2008, 20:38
There might arise a need to update the number of POB.

jxc
17th Sep 2008, 20:57
Bose X

does your friend know you took his pregnant wife to guernsey ! :E

PompeyPaul
17th Sep 2008, 21:13
There might arise a need to update the number of POBI remember, whilst doing Air Law, that there are on average 2 flights a year (almost always in Scotland) that land with more POB than they departed with. Due to pregnancy in flight.

Not sure why they are mostly in Scotland, maybe something to do with the remoteness, but that's they way it is according to Mr J M Pratt

S-Works
17th Sep 2008, 21:14
Bose X

does your friend know you took his pregnant wife to guernsey !

He is still wondering how she got pregnant..... :p

Wessex Boy
18th Sep 2008, 13:54
My Mum went flying with my Dad when she was 8.5 months pregnant with me!
The Flight was fine, the train journey home from Ipswich to London is what caused the issues

B747-800
18th Sep 2008, 14:07
Bose X

does your friend know you took his pregnant wife to guernsey !

Its a bit long into the pregnancy to dicover that only now. Is he sure that he is the father?

Julian
18th Sep 2008, 14:24
I think my only concern would be same as Pompey Pauls. Depending how the seatbelt sits on the passenger it could cause major problems if put through a forced landing.

I would do same and err on side of caution.

J.

noblue
19th Sep 2008, 02:01
Mate, I'm an Obstetrician - believe me it's fine for her to fly right up to full term. Treat it as a car journey.

Cheers
Noblue

niknak
20th Sep 2008, 17:48
5 months pregnant and you didn't notice:eek:

I think it's you who needs to see a doctor (specialising in eyesight problems):hmm::p

IO540
21st Sep 2008, 14:21
Some women are so big these days, you could not tell if they were 9 months pregnant. A good exercise for the W&B though!

Is it still true that if giving birth aboard, the child acquires the citizenship of the aircraft registry?

micromalc
22nd Sep 2008, 08:19
Hi All,
Just to let you know that the flight went well and having a pregnant passenger really concentrates the mind......possibly the smoothest landing I've ever made.
Ta all

Lasiorhinus
22nd Sep 2008, 08:20
Is it still true that if giving birth aboard, the child acquires the citizenship of the aircraft registry?

Only if the State the aircraft is registered in has provision for Jus Soli citizenship. (Citizenship granted by being born in a particular country.) America does, but neither the UK nor Australia does. A full list of countries who do, is available at Jus soli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli)

If an aircraft is flying outside the territory of any State, then the birth is considered to have taken place in the State in which the aircraft was registered. If the aircraft is flying over the territory of a State, that may not be the same State in which the aircraft is registered, then the birth is considered to have taken place in both States, and both jurisdictions may lay claim to the child. Once again, the State in question must operate using Jus Soli, otherwise the child will not automatically gain citizenship.

Children born to citizens of third-party States - that is, countries that are neither the State of Registry of the aircraft, nor the State being overflown, are usually able to claim Jus Sanguinis - citizenship based on being descended from a citizen. In most places though, this is not automatic, as the birth certificate will show a foreign country (sometimes two) as the place of birth - but it is almost always a simple paperwork exercise.

IO540
22nd Sep 2008, 10:39
Thank you for a wonderful explanation, Lasiorhinus :ok:

TwinkieFlyer
23rd Sep 2008, 15:09
My wife's doctor told her to keep O2 sats at 90 or above. That ruled out anything over about 7k feet msl without O2. We used portable O2 when we needed it. I already had a pulse oximeter.