QR housing and benefit package

[ezypezy]

Yes yes I know, the place is dusty, its hot, you get treated like dirt.

So how far does the housing money ACTUALLY go?
How many days off a month do you get on 330/340/777 ?
How does the place compare to England on a cold dank January morning?

Please please, some honest answers, and can the usual suspects moan somewhere else? I'm after factual (not opinion based) information i.e. what the reality is...and not why you got goat f**ked

[cf680c2b]

Amen!

also, can someone say one positive thing about the airline/city? anything at all (no sarcasm please).

[Mr Ho]

Yes is graet city. Hav you been Hyderabad? Is like Hyderabad but more roundabut less trafic light. Howsing good to all howse have a/c. Road trafic bad but no cop just do what you like. All my friend come goat :8

[Lulu qatar]

Housing money for F/O 3000 $ /month will be taken from youre total salary and you will get 3 bedroom apartment. As Capt 3600 $ will be taken from youre total income for 3-4 bedroom house .
If you compare Qatar to England its more less the same p:ugh:lace is full of Indians and Arabs and as usual English people are management. You can speak hindi ,arabic or english . London = Doha same same my friend .
All restaurants and caffee shops are closed during day at the moment in Doha utill night .
Days off A320 not alowed to request off .
A330 up to 4 days in roster
A340 up to 7 days in roster
777 up to 4 days

If you travel to UK most of time you will travel ID90 % means you get a seat if there is space and LHR ,LGW is always full as Qatari people like to travel there and connecting pax from India are going home (passport home)

Whats wrong ? You fail in EK and EY already ?

[skya320]

F/O 3-4 bedrooms apartment
CAPT 4 bedrooms villa

If you choose to live in the compound then your housing allowance will be taken away. I hate to say these, but most things that you have heard about Qatar are true. It's not a very nice city to work or live. As for your wife, it might be a bit difficult to find job here in Doha. School also have limited sapce for new kids. (Good school)

Goodluck

[cf680c2b]

lulu/sky.. thanks for the feedback.

Are the homes furnished?

are there playgrounds, pools, gyms in the compound?

lulu:
Ek - not interviewing til 2009
EY - I'm not interested

[Lulu qatar]

Some of wifes got a job in school as assistant and salary is about 400$ . You sure you want her to work in Doha ? That means 99% that youre leave and her leave will not match !
EY - not intrested ? Well you will meet a lot of QR pilots who just passed intervew with EY coz they are intrested wandering why ? come and see.

[ForzaLazio]

what about the monthly salary for an FO? thank you

[Spirit1]

QA sucks.

As you know. The town is dusty.
The kids will get breathing problem.
You wife might get a job however you will go to nice destinations and only spend 10-12 days I Doha.
After a while she will hate Doha, Qatar, You, all the Indian and in 90% of the cases she will move back home.
She will leave you in Doha and you can’t blame her.
Sorry mate. That’s the future if you join dusty QA.

Regards :sad:

[loc22550]

Forza :
To make it short:For a new joining F/O:
Monthly salary around ..10.000.. U$/month( including house allowance and flying allowance ..70..h).
Substract 2800U$/month if you take the company accomodation.

Think twice before coming here excpecially if you have family and kids!!

(as spirit1 mentioned)

[777-200LR]

Its funny that some of you mention Doha being closed until evening time. You failed to mention that this is due to the month of Ramadan and you also failed to mention or realize that its exactly the same here in Dubai, AUH, Bahrain, Kuwait and i'm sure Saudi Arabia. Every year for one month.

[Lulu qatar]

Yea its Ramadan so ???
Open the restourounts and malls and let people have choice . In doha 80% population are not locals .
Dubai there is more places open .

[ForzaLazio]

thanks loc for the info. i'm actually a single guy. will that make it easier for me at QR?

[kknudsen2]

Would any of you "old timers" at QR have any input on what to expect from a pending interview session I have on the books for the end of this month? I don't have a clue what to expect in the way of testing or preparedness for the event (other than the obvious).

I have followed along in the forums. Despite the useful banter, I still feel that I am NOT clutching at straws by applying myself, and I'm willing to give this a go.

Any help would be very useful,

cheers

[Two Dogs....]

Hi EPR SET, my wife couldn't get, wouldn't do, any extra work, lazy tart. But my Philippina housemaid found extra work as a hooker no problem (only funny for a few moments :eek:)

[loc22550]

Forza..yes and no:
Well if you come alone,at least you might save some money...:uhoh:
Shall i recommended you to find quickly a girlfriend here..at least to do something, because living alone here in Qatar is not the best thing i can recommend you!

[skya320]

Fully fernished for both apartment and Villa
The new compound have swimming pools, gym, and tennis courts
No play ground for kids (Too hot to play outside anyway)
1 assigned parking space for apartment
2 assigned parking spaces for Villa

[P.Clostermann]

Dont worry about the interviews...Its a standard interview process of two days.

Technical questions
Psychomotorical testing
interview with some TREs

If all goes well simride in 320 or 330....emphasis on CRM

This is now, whole process is about to change soon.


In general....come with an open and realistic mindset. Doha can be a difficult place to live but can be peacefull for families.

Dont believe in fairytales

Upgrades take at least 6 years ( there are 500+ FOS ahead of you)
Fleet transfers take a minimum of 2 years
There will be NO bases outside Doha for the nearby future!
You will be worked hard!

In general:

EK offers the best overall package, followed by all the others! It does not matter which company you join...after a while you will know you have sold your soul..

Good luck!

[kknudsen2]

Thanks P Clostermann,

I don't mind the work, I've lived in some challenging places before, and with my current job about to go away, I need to get on it.

My impression (not taking all the rhetoric into consideration) is really of a place where it's good to just show up, do your job, go home and have a cold beer and not get too involved or wrapped up in how it should or could be different, yes?

Just want to put my best foot forward...

thanks again

[P.Clostermann]

My thoughts exactly...

If thats your mentatlity, you will do just fine here. Do your job, lay low, do not create any waves and you will have a good time here.

I can even say more...people who do this often get all they want. Fleet transfers, ratings, nice shedules etc. Try too hard and this company will bite your a*! with avengence!

Regarding the changing interview process. Not too many details known yet, but it will become a lot more difficult. More to be compared with the EK and CX recruitment process.
But hey, this will not be active untill end october I would say.

Regarding Qatar....for most people it becomes a love-hate relationship. Its a sinusoide with a three month frequency of ups and downs. You will like it, get bored, go take a breath of fresh air somewhere far away, come back after two weeks and be happy again....

It defenitely is NOT a place for bachelors, as there is absolutely nothing to do for them. For families and friend-orientated people it can be very good. BBQs, boat trips, desert trips etc, all overloaded with alcohol if thats your thing!

Its what you make of it yourself...

[Lulu qatar]

Yea come over and meet 120 F/O s who applied to EK,EY,K.A, and A.A
Meet them and aske them why ?
Every flight but every you will do youre Capt will tell you all **** about airline and i cant say they are wrong .
You will feel it as we all did .
After a while you will aske youre friends who knows who in other airlines so you can move from QA to a normal airline .
QA have only 1 pilots from Emirates and guess how many Emirates has from Qatar Airways . We dont have any pilot from Etihad and guess how many ex QA pilots and staff are there its TRUE man . Why ? Come over find out .

[Mr Ho]

Yes lay low like sneeking dog Clolostermen. Do as master say, jump when master trow ball. Yes this what all good dog should do. Bad dog every cuntry is shot and never to many time :8

[chainsaw]

So, Mr Ho, let's get this right........does what you said mean that Qatar is a cuntry? :confused:

If the answer's 'YES', then I guess that many of us would probably agree with you. :}

[Black Stain]

You are a moron Mr Ho.

Let us set some more questions for you kknudsen2:

1. Rostering call you and say, "Knud we have changed the two sick days you just had into STBY, now over of course, your days off tomorrow and the next are now STBY". What will you say Knud?

2. Operations call you on the tarmac and say, "Because of the delay Knud your split duty is now illegal, so we will change it to a normal duty which would have been illegal without the split, but now you may exercise Captains Discretion to continue". What will you say Knud?

3. Roster 95 hours flight time. Seven days off in Doha, one day off in SEZ. Eleven back-of-clock night duties. What will you say Knud?

4. You are on STBY from 0700. Rostering wake you at 0555 and say, Knud you must come to the airport asap your departure is 0710. What will you say Knud?

5. On your one confirmed annual leave ticket ground staff off-load you and family in a transit city with no apology, no effort to solve, your next duty cancelled, stay away at your own expense, just please go away. What will you say Knud?

6. Red Cap tells you, "the chief has said you are to carry today these... people with knives, this handgun on the flightdeck, this sword on the flightdeck, this deportee without papers, this dangerous goods without a NOTOC". What will you say Knud?

7. The chief says, "you will not eat anything during passenger boarding because it is dangerous". What will you say Knud?

8. At the annual pilots meeting the chief strolls in an hour late and says, "pilots are cheap, leave if you want, I can replace any one of you". What will you say Knud?

9. Security at the tower run at you screaming, "dont stop car here, the chief is coming the chief is coming". What will you say Knud?

10. During turnaround the CS runs into the cockpit yelling, "the chief is coming the chief is coming". What will you say Knud?

11... 12... 13... 10,000........

There are those who just say NO. They leave very quickly, usually terminated.

There are those who TAKE what they want from these :mad: and then split on their terms (I did this).

There are those who say YES SIR to anything with a smile.
I can even say more...people who do this often get all they want. Fleet transfers, ratings, nice shedules etc. That is a really sweet quote :yuk: At least he is honest.

This abomination of an airline has a confrontational management style, there is very little middle ground for you to sit quietly Knud. Eventually you will be confronted and you will concede or walk away. What will you do Knud?

[ali03]

Hi Captain
Ive just come from Doha interview but im worry about the A320 sim
Im 737 first officier so you can imagine about the sim
what do you think about it?
They just said us to wait for about 3 weeks
thanks a lot for your help

[Qatari515]

BS,


I think P was trying to say that laying low without creating waves gets you the farthest in this airline.

Not that you have to bend over and hand over the jar of vaseline the whole time!

Very few suck-ups have actually made it somewhere in this airline, its actually the opposite! The more you do for the company, the less you get!

Do your job and go home for most people still is the best option in this environment!

[Mr Ho]

King of Katamite graet reward me for telling wat I seen. Every one known you 515 :8

[sayap-patah]

Correct Information From Lulu Qatar!!!!!:ok: