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teeteringhead
2nd Aug 2008, 13:05
I was at a dinner last night and the (less than well informed) chap a couple of places down was singing the praises of the Typhoon - this isn't the uninformed bit. He then went on to say:
"And of course the Typhoon is the only military aircraft to re-use an historic name"
"Rubbish" sez I, and off the top of my head - and with wine taken - immediately came up with the following:
Lightning
Bulldog
Whirlwind
Tutor
Hawk?
Dominie
Even restricting it to British military - which was the context - there must be more.
All contributions gratefully received ........
Manchester
Andover
Venom
Vampire
Globemaster (now up to 3)
Corsair
Mirage (made by Dassault but all different, sharing only a delta planfrom [where does that leave the F1?])
B26 (causes confusion still between the Martin and Douglas designs)
windriver
2nd Aug 2008, 13:50
Can`t find a military "Hawk" - but not to say there wasn`t one... (There was the Miles Hawk of course and the Nieuport Nighthawk)
Westland built a Wessex Airliner in the 30's and used by the RAF as a navigation trainer
http://aviationancestry.com/Aircraft/Westland/Westland-Wessex-1933-2.jpg
I was hoping to add Vulcan to the list, but as far as I can make out the Vickers Vulcan (mid 20's) never saw military service .....
forget
2nd Aug 2008, 13:58
Curtis Hawk. HERE (http://www.pprune.org/forums/aviation-history-nostalgia/175835-tfc-curtis-hawk-75-airborne.html)
RETDPI
2nd Aug 2008, 14:22
Just U.K. Military use:
Nimrod....
Then with types that didn't quite make it in one case :
Tornado .....Hornet ..... Sea King....Firefly..Swift..Scimitar..Seagull...Harrier..Heron.. .Osprey...Oxford...Gazelle...Griffin...Wasp....
Some have been used three times e.g. Bulldog.....Firefly.....
Liffy 1M
3rd Aug 2008, 15:18
Texan and Thunderbolt have been used twice by the US military.
merlinxx
3rd Aug 2008, 17:35
COMET both the fastest of their time
stevef
3rd Aug 2008, 18:27
Same manufacturer, same name: Armstrong Whitworth Argosy.
Gainesy
4th Aug 2008, 15:47
Often wondered, Bristol Beaufighter, why? Did they think it and the Beaufort beautiful?:confused:
RETDPI
4th Aug 2008, 16:06
Beaufighter was a contraction of Beaufort Fighter I thought.
One squadron had all of theirs named after famous characters;
Beau Geste, Beau Brummel etc.. , including my favourite..........
"Little Beau Peep"
I do believe Tornado has been used before, for a Hawker product circa early 1940's precursor of the Tempest and Typhoon. Don't think it entered service.
forget
4th Aug 2008, 17:26
I do believe Tornado has been used before,
................................................
HERE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Tornado)
treadigraph
4th Aug 2008, 18:31
One squadron had all of theirs named after famous characters;
Beau Geste, Beau Brummel etc.. ,
After a heavy landing, they probably had one named "Beau Legged".
Golf Charlie Charlie
4th Aug 2008, 20:26
What about the TSR2 ? Wasn't the original TSR2 the Fairey Swordfish ?
teeteringhead
6th Aug 2008, 12:34
Many thanks to all, now I can bore accurately at dinners!!
As an aside on Bristols, the Bristol Car Company - which began as an offshoot of the aircraft company - discovered a few years ago that they still held copyright on all the names ....
..... and produced (very expensive) four-wheeled Brigand and Beaufighter models.
Just a spotter
9th Aug 2008, 17:47
"And of course the Typhoon is the only military aircraft to re-use an historic name"Apache
Iroquois
Lakota
Black Hawk
et al.
All pretty historic names reused, but for a very different reason.
(And yes, I know that's not exactly what he meant):hmm:
Magister ... Miles and Fouga
JAS
evansb
9th Aug 2008, 18:20
The Westland Widgeon, fixed-wing of the 1920s.
The Westland Widgeon, rotary-wing of the 1950s.
The Grumman Widgeon, amphibian of the early 1940s.
barit1
10th Aug 2008, 02:16
Globemaster I, II, III
Electra, Electra Junior, Super Electra (all twins)
Electra (L-188)
Orion
And a couple dozen Moths