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armchairpilot94116
29th Jun 2008, 07:23
SFO: COCKPIT OF CARGO PLANE CATCHES FIRE AT SFO


SAN FRANCISCO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT (BCN)
The cockpit of a cargo plane caught fire while parked at San Francisco International Airport tonight, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.
The fire was reported to the FAA at 10:18 p.m. on Abex Boeing 767 Flight No. 1611, FAA spokesman Bruce Nelson said.
The plane, used to transport cargo, was parked at Plot No. 11 in a remote area of the airport when the fire was reported, according to Nelson.
It was unknown if anybody was onboard the plane at the time of the fire, Nelson said.
( 2007 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. In the interest of timeliness, this story is fed directly from the Associated Press newswire and may contain occasional typographical errors. )

cbs5.com - Local Wire (http://cbs5.com/localwire/22.0.html?type=bcn&item=PLANE-FIRE-bagm-)

HAWK21M
29th Jun 2008, 08:14
Was the Aircraft powered up at the time?
regds
MEL.

411A
29th Jun 2008, 17:25
One wonders....dis-satisfied employee perhaps?

fleigle
29th Jun 2008, 20:19
Pix on the freight thread.

FlexibleResponse
30th Jun 2008, 13:25
Looking at the pictures on the freight thread indicate that this was a very intense and high temperature fire.

If an airframe is minded to catch fire, it is just so wonderful to see it self-immolate on the tarmac, instead of airborne.

Now the investigators will have a very good chance at identifying and eliminating yet another source of potential disaster, and making our jobs safer.

lomapaseo
30th Jun 2008, 15:36
this was a very intense and high temperature fire

I can't relate to intense or high temperature from the pics.

I see aluminum melted which doesn't take either.

I grant you it was localized

Airbubba
4th Jul 2008, 06:37
One wonders....dis-satisfied employee perhaps?

I remember the Machinists popping slides and cutting wires in the weeks before the EAL strike. The union, naturally, denounced these events as isolated incidents.

July 3, 2008

NTSB: Cargo carrier received threat before fire

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 9:24 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Federal investigators say a cargo carrier whose plane was burned in an unexplained fire had received a threat a few days before.

The National Transportation Safety Board disclosed the information Thursday. The board did not mention any link between the threat and the fire Saturday.

The blaze damaged a Boeing 767 flown by cargo company ABX Air at San Francisco International Airport. No one was injured.

The fire burned a hole through the upper fuselage of the plane, just behind the cockpit.

Several federal agencies are investigating.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Cargo-Plane-Fire.html

armchairpilot94116
4th Jul 2008, 07:51
cbs5.com - Threats Issued In Days Before SFO Plane Fire (http://cbs5.com/local/sfo.plane.threat.2.763460.html)

Buzz Control
5th Jul 2008, 08:38
http://avherald.com/img/abx_b762_ksfo_080628_2.jpg

http://avherald.com/img/abx_b762_ksfo_080628_3.jpg

Looks like a W/O to me. Lots of damage by the side of the entrance door as well.

barit1
5th Jul 2008, 13:44
NTSB preliminary report (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20080701X00963&key=1)

barit1
5th Jul 2008, 14:38
I'm not sure it would have to be a w/o. Depending on the economics of the repair, there's a perfectly good 767 nose and fwd fuselage here (http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1059747/L/).

I believe N330AA is in storage at Mojave or Marana.

PaperTiger
5th Jul 2008, 16:46
It's registered to ABX direct, not to some Delaware or Utah bank so it will depend on what they paid for it, how far it's been amortized and when the next 'D' is due.

767-300s are in high demand (due to 787 delays), 767-200s not so much. Probably (IMO) worth more as scrap.

underread east
5th Jul 2008, 19:21
Just curious about the timeline....How long did it take to burn through to this extent? From a soon to be 767 driver....

lomapaseo
5th Jul 2008, 20:18
Just curious about the timeline....How long did it take to burn through to this extent? From a soon to be 767 driver....

They go a lot faster after you open the door and the windows. So the better question is how long do you have to make it out of the aircraft before it aerates on it's own?

The pictures don't answer that question

akerosid
5th Jul 2008, 20:39
JetPhotos.Net Photo N799AX (CN: 23432) DHL (ABX Air) Boeing 767-281(SF) by Brian Futterman (http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5733511)

Aircraft delivered to ANA in Jul 1986; don't know what the market value of a 22 year old converted 762F, but that looks like a lot of damage and presumably, there is also significant damage to the interior of the aircraft.

I think it's a safe guess that it'll be a write-off.

Duck Rogers
5th Jul 2008, 21:30
Continued here http://www.pprune.org/forums/freight-dogs/333069-dhl-fire.html