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Hebridean Jocky
12th Jun 2008, 17:02
Quick Question here.
Is there a height restriction for flying the Tornado? G3 or G4.
Subject came up in the crew room.

Cheers

MostlyHarmless
12th Jun 2008, 17:21
Believe it to be 250' MSD, apart from the ranges and a few other fun places.

VinRouge
12th Jun 2008, 17:26
150 msd OLF?

JMP6
12th Jun 2008, 19:08
If the crewroom of which you speak is Brit Mil then you will know where to look.

I do not mean to be difficult, but I think you're fishing.

D Smalls
12th Jun 2008, 20:10
Is there a height restriction for flying the Tornado?

Tall enough to reach the pedals?

G3 or G4

Not sure about G3, but G4 would probably all fit

http://www.g4site.com/home.php


It's my first post, go easy on me

Snapshot
12th Jun 2008, 20:14
Think its about 6'3?
I'm 6'2 and it was a squeeze! Hahaha! :ugh:

Min Decent Ht
12th Jun 2008, 21:09
Not sure about the G3 (I thought we'd kept that one under wraps, curse this open source....) but when the G4 goes above 50 000ft the cooling fans tend to trip off. Gets very quiet at around 63 000 I'm told.
Or did you mean the lowest height? about 5'4"

nunquamparatus
12th Jun 2008, 22:27
A Tonka above FL400? Briefly, very briefly, surely. Just before it runs out of gas, falls out of the sky like a very heavy piece of poo?

VinRouge
12th Jun 2008, 22:46
What do you mean like a very heavy piece of poo? :}

If its an official question, why not look here:

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/AboutDefence/WhatWeDo/AirSafetyandAviation/LowFlying/LFAs/LowFlyingArea14.htm

or ring them directly?

Tim McLelland
12th Jun 2008, 22:53
I thought Tornados were all the same height?;)

BigBusDriver
13th Jun 2008, 01:49
As an uninformed civilian I'd say this one was pushing the envelope...

:}

http://www.savonsanomat.fi/video-kuva/kuvasarjat/onnettomuuskoneen-lasku(131978).ece#9

NorthernSID
13th Jun 2008, 07:43
If your Q refers to your size:

As I remember it, height alone is not a restriction

It's more to do with

1. Functional reach. Can you reach all the switches you need to
2. Ejection seat limits. These may be sitting height, sitting thigh length, weight etc. Basically so you're not going to hit anything on the way out.

There is a max & min weight. Minimum cos your body has to be able to withstand the ejection force & max so you can meet conditions for your chute to open. Seem to rememer nude weights of 95 kg for a zero/zero facility & 105 kg for zero/30

I am/was 6' 3" & was 98kg - A litle shorter & heavier now, sadly

Shadwell the old
13th Jun 2008, 09:21
About 5 or 6 years ago we took (Acting) Wg Cdr Phil Beech (Sp?) the F3 nav flying in a Nimrod out of Seeb when he was doing some Nimrod tasking and liaison job at the embassy. As we passed through F230 we had a round of applause for him on intercom and gave him a certificate, as we believed it was the first time he had been so high in a military aircraft. I also had the crew monitor him for the rest of the sortie to ensure that he didnt get nose bleeds as he was flying so high for so long. Think he only twigged we were extracting the Michael as we were on finals!

Green Flash
13th Jun 2008, 14:04
Didn't The Mekon have an extra cushion in his GR3?

scarecrow450
13th Jun 2008, 17:50
Had a chance of a trip when I left A SQN at TTTE. Weight limit I was told was 100KG, argh sez I , can I have a limb chopped off to fit. No was the reply. But I was given 200 slimming tablets instead ! Still at least I was'nt eating while I was smoking them !! :bored::bored:

Hebridean Jocky
14th Jun 2008, 11:23
Northernsid,
Thanks very much. Your information has answered my question, which coming from a civilian jockey I thought was pretty reasonable.
If I had been looking for the max Flight Level then I would probably have asked for that.

Cheers again to all.

bakseetblatherer
15th Jun 2008, 02:34
One of the girls on my course was very petite and knew she would struggle meeting the minimum ejection seat weight. We force fed her a full fat english breaky that morning at Henlow and poured (I think) about 6 pints of water down her neck just before she was weighed (pint = about .45kg, I think). She came out just .25 over the minimum...then ran to the loo:}

tu chan go
15th Jun 2008, 02:50
I experienced the exact opposite. I was due to take a policeman friend flying in a Hawk. At the medical the doc told him he was 4 kg too heavy. The plod asked if he could have another medical in the afternoon. The doc said yes but that it wouldn't change anything. WRONG! Four hours on a rowing machine and he scraped under the max weight. Came out of the medical and drank 4 pints of water!

JTIDS
15th Jun 2008, 18:10
Slightly off topic, but anyone know what the minimum weight to fly in the Hawk is? And for anyone who knows who I am, no I'm not asking for my own benefit! ;)

Phil_R
16th Jun 2008, 18:17
> One of the girls on my course was very petite and knew she would struggle
> meeting the minimum ejection seat weight. We force fed her a full fat
> english breaky

Doesn't that mean that, in the event she ever has to eject, she'll either die or be turned into a Flowerpot Person by the seat?

"Pop Up Little Fast Jet Pilot"...

P

PS: For what it's worth, which isn't much, I'm 6'4" and having sat briefly in the back of a Tornado I'm fairly confident I'd exit with kneecaps, although I have no idea if they'd let me and frankly no desire to risk it.

DX Wombat
16th Jun 2008, 18:52
Believe it to be 250' MSD, apart from the ranges and a few other fun places.Wimp! For any Tornado overflying Shobdon the MAXIMUM height should be just sufficient to clear the hangar roof. :ok: :ok: :ok: Lower heights should preferably be flown over the SSAIs (Sites of Special Auditory Interest) :E :E :E The correct response to the invitation from the CFI to "Feel free to fly through our overhead low level" is "Flying through the overhead low level. A few minutes (rather than ten seconds)warning if possible, would be appreciated so we can all get outside in time with our cameras. :) :ok:

Fg Off Max Stout
16th Jun 2008, 19:10
JTIDS,

And for anyone who knows who I am, no I'm not asking for my own benefit!

Clearly not, but I know exactly what you're up to you dirty old man! See you on Friday fatboy.

JTIDS
16th Jun 2008, 19:50
You know where you can go Mr Stout!

MostlyHarmless
16th Jun 2008, 20:00
If I had been looking for the max Flight Level then I would probably have asked for that.

Yeah, but answering the question is no fun - much better to deliberately miss-read the post. It's that or pick holes in your grammer...

Yes, yes, I know it's miss-spelt. I Wonder who'll bite ; )

DX Wombat
16th Jun 2008, 22:23
It's that or pick holes in your grammer...
:confused: People in glasshouses?

bakseetblatherer
18th Jun 2008, 03:07
Doesn't that mean that, in the event she ever has to eject, she'll either die or be turned into a Flowerpot Person by the seat?

"Pop Up Little Fast Jet Pilot"...

P

Nah by the time she had finished Nav traing she would be fatter! Happens to us all ;)

She ended up multis anyway so all that effort for nothing:)

MostlyHarmless
18th Jun 2008, 08:11
One...... :)