mingalababya
6th Jun 2008, 01:38
You can download CCAR-121 (the Chinese version) here (http://pilots.caac.gov.cn/guizhang.asp), but you'll need translation software to convert it to English. The section on flight duty times is from Chapter P, from pages 93 to 97. You can try and copy and paste the text from these pages into something like Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate_t) and translate from Chinese to English.
mingalababya
6th Jun 2008, 01:44
I've done it for you. :)
P Chapter crew members on duty period and flight time limitations and rest requirements
Section 121.481 is over
(a) certificate holders in the implementation of the rules of operation, should ensure that its crew members with the duty of this chapter apply restrictions on flight time limitations and rest requirements. Any violation of the provisions of this chapter may not run in the rules as necessary crew members.
(b) of this chapter in the terms defined as follows:
(1) The approved sleep, is approved by the Council, in order for the crew members get good sleep and designated sites;
(2) calendar days, the world is in accordance with the coordination of local time or at a time, from that day between 0:00 to 0:00 the next day, the 24-hour;
(3) duty periods, is that crew members in the certificate holder for the mission, from time to complete the task and report to designated locations at the beginning (not including the resident from the place of residence or place to report back to the time spent) , To lift the mandate of the moment consecutive time. In a duty period, crew members can sleep conditions have been resting places, then the rest can not included in the duty periods of time on duty;
(4) The rest period is defined from the rest crew members arrived from the point where, for the implementation of the next mission to leave for the rest of the place of time, during the period, the certificate holder shall not be any arrangements for the members to work and Any interference. In order to complete the mission assigned as a crew flying to and from the resident on duty and place of rest period time shall not be counted;
(5) operation delay is due to bad weather conditions, aircraft equipment failures, poor air traffic control, such as the objective circumstances which led delay.
(c) In this chapter, crew members of flight time refers to the flight crew members during the off-duty, including the meeting time of flight (flight experience time) and not here flight time.
Section 121.483 pilot duty periods restrictions, flight time limitations and rest requirements
(a) When the flight crew with two pilots, the pilots of the restrictions on duty period, flight time limitations and rest requirements should meet the following requirements:
(1) a maximum period of 14 hours on duty, the duty of flight time period shall not be more than eight hours but not more than two leg of the flight, the flight time may be extended to nine hours. Arrangements should be on duty after at least 10 consecutive hours of rest period, but the mission is the time to lift occurred at 0:00 after midnight, should be arranged 12 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty in the At the end of the beginning and the next moment between duty periods;
(2) operation of the delay occurred when the driver if the actual time is not on duty more than 14 hours of the restrictions, then the duty periods after the rest period can be shortened to nine hours;
(3) delays in operation, the duty periods can be extended up to 16 hours, but the duty periods after 10 small
CCAR-121-R2 -93 --
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When the rest period shall not be shortened.
(b) When the flight crew with three pilots, which includes a section 121.451 (a) of the conditions experienced co-pilot, the pilot duty periods restrictions, flight time limitations and rest requirements should meet the following requirements:
(1) a maximum period of 16 hours on duty, the duty during the flight time should not exceed 10 hours, but there was no stopping the middle of the flight, flight time can be extended to 12 hours. Arrangements should be on duty after at least 14 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning;
(2) operation of the delay occurred when the driver if the actual time is not on duty more than 16 hours of the restrictions, then the duty periods after the rest period can be shortened to 12 hours;
(3) delays in operation, the maximum duty period may be extended to 18 hours, but the duty periods after 14 hours of rest a period not shorter.
(c) When a flight crew with three pilots, which includes a section 121.451 (a) of the conditions experienced co-pilot and flight crew provided by the approval of the sleeping area, the driver of the restrictions on duty, flying Time limits and rest requirements should meet the following requirements:
(1) a maximum period of 18 hours on duty, the duty during the flight time should not exceed 14 hours, but each pilot in flight should have the opportunity to sleep in the area have been approved by the rest period should be on duty for at least 18 consecutive Hour rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning;
(2) operation of the delay occurred when the driver if the actual time is not on duty more than 18 hours of the restrictions, then the duty periods after the rest period can be shortened to 16 hours;
(3) delays in operation, the maximum duty period may be extended to 20 hours, but the duty periods after 18 hours of rest a period not shorter.
(d) When the flight crew with four pilots, which includes a section 121.451 (a) of the conditions experienced co-pilot, the pilot duty periods restrictions, flight time limitations and rest requirements should meet the following requirements:
(1) duty periods up to 20 hours, the duty of flight time period shall not be more than 17 hours, but each pilot in flight should have the opportunity to sleep in the District have approved the rest period should be on duty for at least 22 consecutive hours The rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning;
(2) operation of the delay occurred when the driver if the actual time is not on duty more than 20 hours of the restrictions, then the duty periods after the rest period can be shortened to 20 hours;
(3) delays in operation, the maximum duty period may be extended to 22 hours, but the duty periods of 22 hours of rest a period not shorter.
Section 121.485 navigator, flight mechanical, flight restrictions messenger duty periods, the flight time limitations and rest requirements
(a) When the flight crew equipped with a navigator, a flight or a member of mechanical flight messenger, you can do both of the following format: -94 - CCAR-121-R2
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(1) duty periods for no more than 14 hours, the flight time on duty during the period of not more than nine hours, arrangements should be on duty after at least 10 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment One on duty at all times between the beginning. And running in the event of delay, should also meet the following requirements:
(i) if the navigator, flight machinery, communications Members of the actual flight time is not on duty more than 14 hours of the restrictions, requirements of the rest period can be shortened to nine hours;
(ii) duty periods can be extended up to 16 hours, but the duty periods after 10 hours of rest a period not shorter.
(2) duty periods for more than 14 hours but not more than 16 hours, the flight time on duty during the period of not more than 12 hours on duty after the period for at least 14 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty in the end And the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning. And running in the event of delay, should also meet the following requirements:
(i) if the navigator, flight machinery, communications Members of the actual flight time is not on duty more than 16 hours of the restrictions, requirements of the rest period can be shortened to 12 hours;
(ii) duty periods can be extended up to 18 hours, but the duty periods after 14 hours of rest a period not shorter.
(b) When the flight crew with two pilot, two flight or two members of mechanical flight messenger, you can do both of the following arrangements:
(1) duty periods for more than 16 hours but not more than 18 hours, the duty of flight time period should not exceed 14 hours in flight and should have the opportunity to sleep in an approved area are closed. After the duty periods for at least 18 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning. And running in the event of delay, should also meet the following requirements:
(i) if the navigator, flight machinery, communications Members of the actual flight time is not on duty more than 18 hours of the restrictions, requirements of the rest period can be shortened to 16 hours;
(ii) duty periods can be extended up to 20 hours, but the duty periods after 18 hours of rest a period not shorter.
(2) duty periods for more than 18 hours but not more than 20 hours, the duty of flight time period shall not be more than 17 hours, and in-flight should have the opportunity to sleep in the District have approved the rest. After the duty periods for at least 22 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning. And running in the event of delay, should also meet the following requirements:
(i) if the navigator, flight machinery, communications Members of the actual flight time is not on duty more than 20 hours of the restrictions, requirements of the rest period can be shortened to 20 hours;
(ii) duty periods can be extended up to 22 hours, but the duty periods of 22 hours of rest a period not shorter.
Section 121.487 flight crew members of the weeks, months, the flight time limit
Certificate holders in the arrangements for the flight crew members of flight, flight crew members should ensure that the total flight time (including in accordance with the rules of the operation and implementation of the rules of the operation, including training, transfer machines, private and flight operations, such as ) To the following provisions: CCAR-121-R2 -95 --
Large-scale public air transport aircraft carrier operating certification rules (the Civil Aviation Administration of the No. 140)
(a) any seven consecutive calendar days shall not exceed 40 hours.
(b) any calendar month flight time over 100 hours, any three consecutive calendar month, the total flight time shall not be more than 270 hours.
(c) any calendar year shall not be more than 1,000 hours.
Section 121.489 flight crew members of flight time and duty periods for the additional restrictions
(a) certificate holders for the flight crew members on duty period, according to the normal situation can be terminated during the restricted hours on duty period, but due to delays in operation, the arrangement did not follow the flight time is expected to reach their destinations, beyond the duty periods The time limit is not that the flight crew members on duty in shifts during the period exceeded the limit. However, should abide by this rule 121.483 and 121.485 the provisions of duty extended period of up to more than two hours.
(b) certification arrangements for holders of flight crew members of flight time, if under normal circumstances to limit flight time, the end of flight, but because of operational delays, the arrangement did not follow the flight time is expected to reach their destinations, beyond the time of flight Restrictions are not that the flight crew members in flight scheduling, beyond the time limit.
(c) When a flight crew member for several carriers in one or several types of duty in the operation, its off-duty, the sum of flight time should meet the rules of duty periods and restrictions on flight time limitations.
(d) flight crew members before take-off because of delays caused by the standby time, included duty periods of time.
Section 121.491 of the cabin crew on duty and rest period and requirements
(a) When in accordance with the provisions of Rule 121.391 with the minimum number of cabin crew, cabin crew on duty in a period not more than 14 hours, arrangements should be on duty after at least nine consecutive hours of rest period, this period of rest should be in On duty at the end of the period and the beginning of the next on duty at all times between.
(b) In accordance with the provisions of Rule 121.391 with the lowest number on the increase in the number of cabin crew, cabin crew on duty the rest of restrictions and requirements should be in accordance with the following provisions:
(1) an increase in cabin crew, on duty a period not more than 16 hours; increase in two cabin crew, on duty a period not more than 18 hours; increase in three or three more cabin crew, on duty a period not more than 20 hours;
(2) of more than 14 hours on duty, the duty periods should be arranged after at least 12 consecutive hours of rest period, the rest period should be on duty for the period ended and the next moment on duty at all times between the beginning.
(c) certificate holders for cabin crew on duty period, according to the normal situation can be terminated during the restricted hours on duty period, but due to delays in operation, the arrangement did not follow the flight time is expected to reach their destinations, beyond the period of the restrictions on duty Time, not in that the cabin crew on duty in shifts during the period exceeded the limit.
Section 121.493 cabin crew of the week, month, in time of flight restrictions
Certificate holders in the arrangements for the flight cabin crew, cabin crew should ensure that the total flight time with the following provisions:
(a) in any consecutive seven calendar days of not more than 40 hours. -96 - CCAR-121-R2
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(b) within one calendar month may not be more than 120 hours.
(c) any calendar year shall not be more than 1,300 hours.
(d) cabin crew on the plane, perform security duties of the time should be credited to the cabin crew of flight time.
Section 121.495 crew members requested additional time to rest
(a) shall not be qualified card holders in the rest of the crew members during the provisions of any arrangements for the work of the crew members are not allowed to accept the certificate holders of any work.
(b) of this chapter requirements of the rest period can be included in other period of rest.
(c) Only in the event of delay in operation only when allowed under this rule 121.483 and 121.485 in the provisions of shortening the period of rest, does not allow for pre-arranged.
(d) in any period of seven calendar days, was arranged for a period or on duty more than once the crew members, certificate holders should be arranged for at least a continuous 48-hour rest period.
(e) When the card holder is a qualified crew members for other tasks, the task can be included in time, can also be excluded from duty periods. When not included duty periods, in the period before the start of duty should be to arrange at least eight hours of rest period.
(f) If the termination of flight time zones and the location of the crew members at the base of the area between the six or more than six hours of the time difference, when crew members returned to base after the certificate holders should be arranged for a At least 48 consecutive hours of rest period. The rest of the crew members should be on duty into the next before the arrangement. The base is referred to in paragraph certificate holders identified by the resident crew members and accept the scheduling place.
(g) certificate holders will be transported to the implementation of crew members of the mission or task of lifting it from the airport transported back to the resident, by the way they spend the time should not be considered an integral part of the rest period.
(h) certificate holders in the arrangements for the crew members in accordance with this rule 121.487 (a) and section 121.493 (a) of the flight time, arrangements should be at least a continuous 48-hour rest period.
mach85
5th Nov 2017, 12:46
On 10-Oct-27, CCAA just released CCAR 121 R5. Subpart P was totally re-written.
The rules will go into effect on 31-Dec-2019.
Here is a link:
https://understandingccar121subpartp.wordpress.com/
Garret,
From your understanding, in2019 the limit will be 900 hours for all airlines or from 31st December 2019, you must comply with subpart p meaning effectively your 900 hr limit begins from 2020?
Cheers,
GarretHealy
28th Jan 2018, 13:29
Garret,
From your understanding, in2019 the limit will be 900 hours for all airlines or from 31st December 2019, you must comply with subpart p meaning effectively your 900 hr limit begins from 2020?
Cheers,
The way I understand things is this:
1) the regulation must be implemented no later than 31-Dec-2019, (It may be implemented earlier).
2) the old limitation under R4 of the regulations had a 1000:00 limit in a Calendar Year, (So up through 23:59 on 30-Dec-2019 the total flight time since 00:00 01-Jan-2019 may not exceed 1000:00)
3) the new limitation of 900:00 is effective 31-Dec-2019, (So up through 23:59 on 31-Dec-2019 the total flight time since 00:00 01-Jan-2019 may not exceed 900:00)
4) those crew members who have accrued more than 900:00 in 2019 would not be permitted to resume flying until 01-Jan-2020 (the start of the next calendar year).
The specific limitation in CCAR 121.487 (B) is a Scheduled Limitation.
Personally, I think CAAC should have gone with a 1000:00 limit in a 365 day limit, doing so would:
1) follow international standards under FAA/EASA and CASA 2) require a fairer distribution of flight time across rosters, under the calendar year rule, can exceed 900:00 or even 1000:00 between 01July2019 to 30June2020, this sort of defeats the purpose of combating fatigue via prescriptive regulations.
Sorry to have gotten back so late./Garret
POWDERFINGER
30th Jan 2018, 00:09
I've done it for you. :)
Notice that they are specific about uninterrupted rest, using the word “consecutive” to indicate that rest does not pause and resume later. Duty periods, however, don’t use the word “consecutive”. This creates a grey area where companies may divide a pilot’s duty time between early morning and late evening flying.
China’s “mobilization of the people” for high production will eventually result in fatalities, as there is no respect for human factors.
Transformer_Man
30th Jan 2018, 00:43
Some of the foreigners over here had issues with the split duty trips. The company position was that _total hours_ on duty were within limits and not prohibited by regulations.
Looking in the ops manual, there are no stipulations about split duty scheduling. Scheduling has rules, based on whims of upper management, that facilitate high flight time.
As to fatigue: push pilots near their limits, where QAR reports start to increase, then punish vigirously to cap the errors. Except people are people. Maoists don't understand that, so there will be more QAR busts and bent metal eventually...