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Craven Moorhed
19th Apr 2008, 01:26
2205 Z this aft, 1 x Hawk CT-155 crashed short of the runway at CYMJ.
HUGE fireball !
More details to follow, but the Martin Baker Mk 10's worked well, shall we say....
:<))

Throat
19th Apr 2008, 07:33
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=88b6bbad-2336-4426-bcf6-c91450da89fc

Airborne Aircrew
19th Apr 2008, 11:59
2nd Lt. Rock Veilleux

Now there's a name for a pilot... :D

Two's in
19th Apr 2008, 13:16
Notice how the story links 3 "deadly" crashes over the previous 13 years to demonstrate how reckless the RCAF truly are - it's almost like operating warfighting equipment might have some risks. Clearly the sloppy, idle, "build a drama from a crisis" journalism DNA is global. If only there were more Orphanages and Nuclear Power plants in Saskatchewan, this story might have got the coverage it deserved.

exscribbler
19th Apr 2008, 15:26
Aren't all pilots trained to recognise and avoid primary schools as their burning jets plunge in a deadly arc to the ground? That and how to express terror with their eyes for bystanders' benefit while they battle with the controls...

Glad they got out OK, though but.

PPRuNeUser0211
19th Apr 2008, 19:55
Glad to see the MB10 works! Hope they remembered to ditch the PSP's though...

another one bites the dust......

Projecting GAP
28th Apr 2008, 13:14
Any update to this as a few of us have enjoyed good times in the Jaw? Are the guys OK and any news on likely cause?

Cheers.

ARINC
28th Apr 2008, 15:06
HUD Film pending I trust....

saudipc-9
28th Apr 2008, 15:12
Both are fine, stud had a mangled arm which has been fixed. No word on cause but obviously engine focused. Hawks still not flying so Harvard’s can now fly uninterrupted without the persistent whining on the radios!:}

Projecting GAP
28th Apr 2008, 16:07
Thanks for that info. We'll wait and see for the rest.....

Craven Moorhed
28th Apr 2008, 22:07
It has been confirmed that the cause was an LP blade 'failure'.
Several cases of it happening in the last 12 months to the Hawk 115.
QFI has crushed vertabrae (sp ?) from the bang seat, and the stude has a dislocated/broken arm from his heavy 'chute landing.
So, no flying for a while.....
We'll just have to sit around listening to those crap 'strimmers' whining away all day long.
Props are for boats, SaudiPC9.....

saudipc-9
30th Apr 2008, 20:52
Ahh but I fly by doing alot of screwing while you have to suck and blow:p

BombayDuck
1st May 2008, 06:16
Indian Air Force Hawk Crashes (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Just-inducted_Hawk_trainer_of_IAF_crashes/articleshow/3000060.cms)

NEW DELHI: IAF lost one of its newly inducted British Hawk AJTs (advanced jet trainers) on Tuesday afternoon when
it crashed soon after taking off from the Bidar airbase in Karnataka.

"Barely seconds after liftoff, there was apparently some technical snag. One pilot ejected, while the other came down with the aircraft. Fortunately, none of them was seriously injured," said an official.


Riding the aircraft down must have been scary. Glad they're both ok. Aircraft has been written off, fleet grounded.

HalloweenJack
1st May 2008, 17:10
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/05/01/223407/indian-air-force-grounds-hawk-fleet-following-first-crash.html


One of 10 BAE-manufactured Hawks to have been put into service at Bidar air base in February, the aircraft suffered extensive damage following an aborted take-off on 29 April, according to air force sources quoted in the Indian media. One crew member ejected from the aircraft, while the other escaped after it came to a rest on the runway, according to a Times of India report.

different report there - says it was an aborted tale off - apparantly indian media is having a field day

"Sources in Air Hqs, said that the main problem has to do with certain parts like the undercarriage and the pilot-static tube - it gives the pilots feedback on airspeed and altitude - that were found to be rusted and unusable."
.....
"Initial investigation points to the way of the undercarriage or the yaw controllers that are used to stabilise the aircraft. The was no apparent enigne failure in the trainer."

Source: Indian Express paper print 1st May 08

pendrifter
3rd May 2008, 07:40
"A little over a 100 students at the base training to become fighter pilots on the Hawks and the smaller, slower Harvard aircraft."

Can this be true "Harvard":confused:

henry crun
3rd May 2008, 07:45
More likely this http://www.aerowaredesigns.com/prints/HVII_01.jpg