View Full Version : another bizarre sacking

5th Mar 2008, 16:30
Apologies if this is old news but has anyone heard about a guy being sacked from BA cityflyer for letting his girlfriend's dad in the cockpit?

All I know is the guy's Scottish and the girl's called Sam something. Flight to Italy apparently maybe Malpensa. http://www.pprune.org/forums/images/smilies2/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hand Solo
5th Mar 2008, 17:17
All I know is the guy's Scottish and the girl's called Sam something. Flight to Italy apparently maybe Malpensa.

Well I'm glad you've narrowed it down for us!

Nothing bizarre about it at all. If the guy broke BA's cast iron and very clear rules on cockpit access then he risks getting that sack.

5th Mar 2008, 18:14
Are visits to the cockpit allowed on landing?
Whilst disembarking as SLF, I've noticed the cockpit door is open.

No harm asking if my 9 year old can have a quick look after landing or would that ruin the rest of the holiday?


5th Mar 2008, 18:18
Good question I would like to know the answer to that iswell?

5th Mar 2008, 18:19
Flight deck restriction apply any time the engines are running, so I am sure your son would be more than welcome once the engines have been shut down.

5th Mar 2008, 18:25
So who would tell his seniors?

5th Mar 2008, 19:55
It is not illegal for anyone to visit the flight deck with the Capts permission and when the aircraft is parked with the engines shut down. Any time the engines are running the door must be locked and access is controlled as per the security requirements in the uk.

I've had many visits from (mostly) young people who don't get the chance to visit during the flight any more, something most pilots used to enjoy and encourage.

5th Mar 2008, 20:50
Old news and does it really have to be discussed on here? Catchme what is your interest in this?

5th Mar 2008, 21:19
hmm yes marlowe i see your point, why discuss it on a pilot rumour network forum!, i mean the gall of the lad to even bring this subject up of flight deck access! of which none of us have a opinion!

How dare you sir!!:ugh::ugh::ugh:

5th Mar 2008, 21:26
i dont think the possible flightdeck intrusion is what catchme is really wanting to discuss here!!

6th Mar 2008, 07:01
Getting back to the first post, is this story true?

Right Way Up
6th Mar 2008, 08:10
May I suggest you re-read hughsyds post!

6th Mar 2008, 08:42
Right Way Up said:
May I suggest you re-read hughsyds post! :D

With this type of understanding of written English I wonder how well understood are FCOMs, SOPs, charts, etc for some people.

ICAO levels anyone?:E

6th Mar 2008, 11:08
unless you're flying with oldtora it seems that many airlines permits visits whilst on the ground with the engines shutdown...mine certainly does and like many others here I've had lots of interested children (and adults) come tosay hello after the flight. Stick'em in a seat, put a hat on and let their parents take a photo...kind of makes the trip for the youngster in question.

6th Mar 2008, 13:10
barke its not that i dont like the thread, discuss it as much as you like. But i know the background to this and for a newbie to the forums with only one post to their credit seems an odd subject to raise after this length of time.

6th Mar 2008, 13:21
I've had many visits from (mostly) young people...something most pilots used to enjoy and encourage.


Like Peter Graves, in "Airplane"? ;)

6th Mar 2008, 14:46

Why on earth does the fact that he is a "newbie to the forums with only one post to their credit" make his question less valid?

Perhaps all newbies should make their posts in carefully designated, less august forums until they have achieved the sufficient amount to be allowed to raise a question/express an opinion here? A form of cadetship.

6th Mar 2008, 14:59
Well everynowandthen it seems as if catchme thinks they are in possesion of some of the facts and have come on here looking for someone to spill the beans on the story. I dont think that they are looking for a debate on the merits of a locked door policy more to cause mischief, am i right or am i wrong catchme?

6th Mar 2008, 15:11
I agree & disagree. Plenty of threads start of in a similar way but, in line with your curiousity, there is generally a little bit more information offered.

I did take issue with you pigeonholeing (?) newbies however. How many posts someone has made says very little about them, in my opinion.

Anyway, perhaps I'm being anal & this has no relevance to the thread so I'll shut up.

6th Mar 2008, 15:20
I had no intention of pigeonholing newbies i just feel that catchme has an ulterior motive here. I dont believe that the locked door policy is what they really want to debate, infact i believe that it is only gossip that they are after, i am prepared to be wrong so catchme am i?

6th Mar 2008, 16:15
:O christ you lot are like a big load of girls bitiching and fighting

gawd blimey u should read yerselves sometimes on here !!!

i have never seen such a load of so-called pro's behaving like a gaggle of vicky pollards behind the bike shed all yakking and squawking

please can we discuss things as adults here?
manners. britsh, hmmm ?
thank you

yes i am a pro too,

shame we cant have flight deck visits inflight anymore,

its all just sack em and hang em out to dry shame:*

6th Mar 2008, 18:16
......can one possibly ask a question?

I'm clearly out of the loop and this seems like it happened a while ago, bit I was interested to know if this was real. I don't have any hidden agenda, but as a professional pilot I would be interested to know if somebody was given the heave ho for doing this. I don't want to know who it was, I am just interested to know...honestly!

6th Mar 2008, 18:59
not sure if this one is true but a MYT capt got sacked (big thread elsewhere)

its a big no no now in-flight in uk/us/eu a/c

but jump seat riding and flight deck visits are possible in remoter parts of the world

6th Mar 2008, 19:05
Thanks, yes saw the Pablo one....

7th Mar 2008, 00:10
I'm quite sure i was allowed into the cockpit once while not grounded. :ugh:

Of a well known airline too...