Oz to Canada?

[bush_tucka]

Hi all,. .. .My fiance has been approached by some recruiting company from Canada concerning nurse employment in Canada. She is thinking about going over to nurse in Canada for a while, however she only wants to go if i go along too. I have a couple of questions maybe someone might be able to answer for me... are there some good companies there to convert my licence (CPL only) and what is the job market for a 200hr pilot like in Canada at the moment? Would I need to get an IFR rating or prehaps a Instructor rating? If anyone can shed some light on this it would be greatly appreciated.. .. .Thanx...bush_tucka

[bush_tucka]

any one with any info.....at all?

[Burnout18]

I'd like to help, but i'm not in touch with Commercial aviation here at all. I'll check with some buddies that are, and I'll see what info they have.

[bush_tucka]

thanx burnout 18 that would be appreciated.

[ipanema]

Let's start with the Immigration question. I can't work in Oz, and you can't work in Canada without being processed. It's not just a matter of just arriving and starting to work, and I would say that without a Canadian parent it ain't going to happen any time soon.. .. .My licence is no good in Oz, and yours is no good in Canada. You need to come and write Canadian exams, take a flight test, then start looking for work.. .. .For the job, I have over 13,000 multi hours with over 7,000 turbine, including Twin Otter and Dash-8 experience and I can't find work. Things are starting to open up mhere, but with 200 or 2,000 hours, my guess is you'd be washing planes and pumping gas for a long, long time - even if you could cross the immigration and licence barriers. There are just too many heavy metal pilots out of work afetr the last slash and burn in Canada to leave anything for the little guys (unless you have a relative in the company).. .. .Your fiancee had better check her agency carefully, too. I was in hospital in 1995 and there were Eastern European doctors in the wards working as male nurses because Immigration begged them to come here as qualified professionals and then the Medical Association required them to go back to Med School and qualify all over again in order to practice in Canada.. .. .The same happens to lawyers and other professionals here... they are lured by the promise of a better life, and end up doing menial labour because they are not licenced to practice here. The words "Canadian experience" are also used very freely to erect other brick walls to immigrants.. .. .I'm not saying it's impossible, but be careful what is promised and what is delivered. Canada is no longer the wonderful friendly place it used to be, not even for Canadians. The enormous useless bureaucratic army of occupation has seen to that.. .. .Good luck...

[bush_tucka]

ipanema,. .. .wow thanx for the insight. Thinking maybe a good idea to stay home in oz. Thats the thing I love about pprune u can find out a little aboout somewhere far from home without the expense or headaches! I thought all their promises sounded a little too good!

[aspinwing]

Now that you have read Ianema's post and if you insist try this site:. .. . <a href="http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigr/index2.html" target="_blank">Canadian Immigration</a> . .. .I would't hold my breath though, unless perhaps you have completed uni in a technical field. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> . .. .BTW: Oz doesn't count as a second language <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> . .. .e-mail me if you have any other questions.

[JV]

Bush_Tucka. .. .The long and short of it is, as you probably know, that there is a nursing shortage here in Canada, but certainly not a pilot shortage. Lots of displaced aviators over here at every level, so expect a fair amount of lengthy searching until you come up with something. . .. .I am presuming that your wife will have no problems with immigration due to demand and I also presume that the system will allow you to follow (and consequently work) as a spouse.. .. .Don't know any licence conversion outfits offhand, there are a few around, but you can try <a href="http://www.tc.gc.ca," target="_blank">www.tc.gc.ca,</a> <a href="http://www.canadianaviation.com" target="_blank">www.canadianaviation.com</a> and <a href="http://www.wingsmagazine.com" target="_blank">www.wingsmagazine.com</a> for starters.. .. .Regards,

[JV]

Forgot one. .. .<a href="http://www.theairlinewebsite.com" target="_blank">www.theairlinewebsite.com</a>. .. .Take the forum with a grain of salt, but some of the directories may have useful info.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Ipanama forgot to tell you the simple way to get into Canada.. .. .Paint yourself some dark color and just show up at Customs and claim you are a refugee with a criminal record and AIDS, if you can also tell them this in French you are in for sure.. .. .Now comes the good part, there is no need to worry about working because this caring Liberal ( as in socialistic ) country will take care of you, so for chris*s sake don't offer to work or you will screw up our system.. .. .Shame on you Ipanema for not telling the truth.

[Code Blue]

See whether your fiancee can come over with Landed Immigrant status rather than on a work permit. At one time that was almost routine but then CIC changed its policies and mainly gave out work permits. On a work permit her Social Insurance Number will begin with "9". Almost every financial computer in the country gets indigestion when fed with such a SIN and getting car loans &c becomes v difficult. Landed Immigrant SINs are indistiguishable (allegedly) from citizens' numbers (except First Nations). . .. .For you to get in with her you will need to be husband not just fiance. If she gets Landed status then as hubbie so would you. If not then to train for Canadian licensing you may need a student visa for yourself. If Landed then you have much greater leeway and minimal hassle. . .. .Good Luck. .CB

[bush_tucka]

Thank you to all who replied. Sounds like the Canadian experience may have to wait until another time. I think my best option is to stay at home and slug away here. BTW hope theres some jobs up there for u guys soon!

[ipanema]

I guess I was a little remiss in not supplying some specific helpful info if you decided to come anyway.... .. .There is an outfit in Canada owned m=by mostly Air Canada pilots called AeroCourse <a href="http://www.aerocourse.com" target="_blank">http://www.aerocourse.com</a> who do groundschools across the country.. .. .You can do 3-day IFR and 3-day ALTP, 2-day CRM with them for the written exams, they are excellent preps and run around CD$415/US$280 per shot (CD$200/US$140 for the CRM).. .. .Flight part - for the Multi-IFR (for Commercial or ALTP) I highly recommend doing that with the very efficient Perimeter Aviation in Winnipeg. They run the course as if it were an airline with SOPs, everything supplied.. .. .Airwork and flight test is on older Beech TravelAirs, reliable if a little cramped. They have advanced desktops sims, their own examiner on staff and can organise a TC examiner if necessary.. .. .Good luck, whatever you decide.

[1/4 mile]

bush tuka, i am an aussie working in canada at the moment and have been for 3 years. give me an email and i'll give you the run down.. .. [email protected]