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WorkingHard
22nd Feb 2008, 22:03
Any one know if this will be a new airspace "grab"?

TotalBeginner
22nd Feb 2008, 22:07
where are you referring to?

chrisN
23rd Feb 2008, 00:29
Yes. See: http://www.consultation.nats.co.uk/

"Terminal Control North
"Airspace Change Proposal
"Airspace change is a complex process and NATS applies the utmost rigour to developing design proposals which give full consideration to all the issues surrounding safety, efficiency and the environment.

"As a world leader in air traffic management, it is our intention to provide best practice airspace solutions that allow not only for the growth we have to accommodate, but also our responsibility to our neighbours and to the environment.

"This development of the Terminal Control North airspace region covers a large part of London, southern and eastern England, an area with a population of 12 million people and home to some of the UK's busiest airports.

"NATS is seeking feedback on this proposal before submitting it to the UK airspace regulator, the Civil Aviation Authority, for a decision.

"This website is part of the consultation process and is designed to provide an overview of the proposals and how they affect diffferent parts of the region. If you think the changes are relevant to you the detailed consultation document is available through the link on each page of this site.

"A post code search facility illustrates the changes and there is a downloadable DVD which provides an introduction to the proposal and outlines how the proposed changes affect different parts of the region.

"This consultation process started on 21 February, 2008 and runs until 22 May, 2008 - a period of 13 weeks.

"A feedback form is available on this site for you to register your views. All feedback received during this period will be analysed and summarised in a report which will be published on the NATS website by 22 June 2008."

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Chris N.

WorkingHard
23rd Feb 2008, 07:06
Thank you ChrisN but that appears to tell the aviation world virtually nothing. It is certainly a good publicity item for the general public. With such a large area of CAS in and around London and the South I was asking what the changes may mean to those who fly at the lower levels. Does anyone have any maps of the proposed changes? If you look at the PROPOSAL page B1 for example, the very crude drawing shows CAS extending well beyond the Essex coast line, effectively (without knowing the proposed vertical limits) completely bisecting the UK.

bookworm
23rd Feb 2008, 07:51
WorkingHard

The details you want are in Part J (http://www.consultation.nats.co.uk/uploads/TCN-partJ-AviationStakeholders.pdf).

For non-airways users, the significant changes appear to be:

1) Substantial chunks of class A introduced to the north of the current extent of class A (over Cambridge, Newmarket, Bury St Edmunds, Stowmarket). Most is above 5500 ft, but some NE of the Stansted CTA is 3500 and 4500 ft base.

2) Reclassification of the TMA below 5500 ft over Stansted and Luton to class D.

3) Some slivers of the Stansted CTA returned to class G around Ware, Stapleford and Haverhill.

For those who do fly airways, there's some provision for crossing the TMA at low level:

12.2 As part of the TCN development, it is proposed to introduce three P-RNAV
based transit routes to enable GA traffic to transit the area at either FL80 or
FL90. The intention is to provide pilots of GA aircraft with consistent and
predictable routes within the area so that they can plan their flights with more
certainty. The proposed routes are:
• DET-MODMO-Airway M189-POTON
• DET-MODMO-Airway M189-ADMIS-LEGVA
• DET-MODMO-UMBAG

WorkingHard
23rd Feb 2008, 10:09
Thanks bookworm, I should have read further. I do wonder what will happen in the class D based on past performance regarding GA access to it.