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Cyclic Hotline
13th Sep 2001, 09:12
I have been following the vast number of flights that were diverted to Canada when US airspace was closed yesterday. The scale of the undertaking was massive, but people just got down to it and took care of the thousands of crew and pax at these locations.
To understand the scale of this, check this page out; http://www.tc.gc.ca/en/CrisisinUS_diverted.htm

Good story about what was going on at Vancouver here.
http://www.canada.com/vancouver/theprovince/story.asp?id={FF90A645-8653-4FDD-85A5-F174B19AB0E8}

Some of these communities were inundated with almost half as many sudden visitors, as their permanent population!

This is what being neighbours is all about.

Thanks Canada....

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Code Blue
14th Sep 2001, 03:33
You're welcome:

Some of these communities were inundated with almost half as many sudden visitors, as their permanent population

Gander - pop 9000- has 7000 pax and crew.
As of posting only 2 a/c have left, both returning to the UK.

It has taken in excess of 5 hours per a/c to hand check every item of luggage and there are 36 a/c left!

My daughters' school looks like a refugee camp. The girls are enjoying every minute of their extra vacation :rolleyes: Most of the visitors seem content for now to simply rest and feel somewhat safer.

A few people here wonder whether no one claimimg responsibility for these horrors means that there may be more to come.

Keep safe

rgds

CB

Tan
14th Sep 2001, 17:04
Interesting commentary by a Canadian Television Commentator-

A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES

This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.

America: The Good Neighbor.


Widespread but only partial news coverage
was given recently to a remarkable editorial
broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian
television commentator. What follows is the full text
of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record:

"This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
Americans as the most generous and possibly the least
appreciated people on all the earth.

Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is today paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets
of Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars! into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries are writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like to see just one of those countries that
is gloating over the erosion of the United States
dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country
in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
International lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why does no other land on earth even consider putting
a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German
technocracy, and you get automobiles.

You talk about American technocracy, and you find
men on the moon -! not once, but several times -
and safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at.
Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans
who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and
the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
old caboose. Both are still broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?

I don't think there was outside
help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those."

Stand proud, America!

This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
read regarding the United States. It is nice that
one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of the
world would realize it. We are always blamed for
everything and never even get a thank you for the
things we do.

I would hope that each of you would send this to
as many people as you can and emphasize that they
should send it to as many of their friends until this
letter is sent to every person on the web. I am just a
single American that has read this.

I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE READ IT SOON.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Follow Ups


Thank you very much

Squawk 8888
14th Sep 2001, 17:57
Gordon Sinclair's broadcast in Real Audio (http://cfrb.klickit.com/ram/americans.ram)

Originally aired on CFRB Toronto, June 5, 1973.

no sig
24th Sep 2001, 00:28
Tan
Well posted! People are forget too easily what the US has done for other nations of the World. Be nice if the it had a wider audience.

paco
26th Sep 2001, 11:34
"I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes?"

Yes, but - other countries can do it, too - from what I hear, the Arrow would stil p*ss all over stuff they have today, and let's not forget they didn't invent Concord(e), the Spitfire, the Harrier, the AS 350, Agusta 109.......

"When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped."

"Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble?"

Canadians have been helping with their forest fires and have gone to New York

"Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon?"

I'm told the Russians did, and before the Americans, although their man did die there - apparently it's in the Guiness Book of Records, under Space Casualties.

I would like to think, when it comes to charitable actions, that most civilised countries, if they occupied the USA's position in the world, would have behaved the same way.

phil

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Buckred
27th Sep 2001, 08:26
Easy!

As an Australian I can tell you our nation mourns Americas loss as does most other countries around the world.

In the fall out of the WTC disaster the US has recieved a build up of support in proportions never before seen.

Our forces are already fully occupied with East Timor and other commitments, but we have promised support and support America will get! Just don't go blowing your horn saying you don't ever get support in times of trouble!

Thankyou Canada for helping us out with our fire disasters a few years back, it was the about the only help we got.

God Bless America and thank Christ for good friends around the world!