Security gone mad

[Steve76]

Here in London, Ontario one of our local refuelers/snow removal drivers has been suspended without pay for 2 weeks, fined $250 Canadian and forced to resit all his airport job specific examinations.
What for?
Not wearing his airport ID card. He had gone out to remove some snow and left it on his jacket in the office. The security guard who made the 'bust' knew him well and they actually stopped to chat and shoot the s**t. The next thing the refueler finds is a letter from the security company with the above conditions. It seems someone decided to make an example of him.
If this is the way its going in the wake of S11 then god help us all because a company uniform and pilots licence are not going to stop you from being arrested. All this pedantic draconian bulls**t is being directed in completely the wrong direction. As usual all the regular joes are suffering while those who want to cause harm are sitting back and working new ways around these problems. <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

[N380UA]

Very true unfortunately.

[Bluebaron]

What was he doing out in the snow without his Jacket??

[Cyclic Hotline]

You've obviously never shovelled real snow! <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

[allianceair]

Cyclic:

I guess you are implying he would sweat?
Why would he be hand shovelling snow on an Airport ramp? Most likely he was operating a mechanical snow removal vehicle.

[Chuck Ellsworth]

Steve 76:

The only way to stop such idiotic penalties as handed out to that individual is for all the airport workers to just sit down and close the airport until someone with some common sense reverses such a dumb decision.

The more you bend over the further they will shove it up. So stand up to them.

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:) The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no. :)

[G.Khan]

In the meantime, how about making a very big deal about running a collection, to include security staff(!), to help make up for the fine and lost wages, let the idiots know that this kind of draconian, lunatic behaviour simply isn't going to win. <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

[boofhead]

just like gun control, drug laws and the like, only the honest citizen is affected. Criminals are what they are because they laugh at laws.
If you asked the drug runners and burglars and terrorists, they would support the laws fully, since all the laws do is make their work easier.
And of course the laws make work for the government agents who enforce them, thus making governments bigger and government employees rich!
So we lose out because of the way the governments make our lives worse, and because the money for all this comes out of our pockets.
The real criminals wear suits.

[sudden Winds]

What do regs say about use of airport IDs ?
you can be given a warning for not using it, but that´s a minor thing compared to not having one...or using one that is expired.
250 bucks for not wearing the ID visibly sounds like too much, having to take all exams again definitely is abusive (imo).

[paco]

So what happens if you're a visiting pilot with only a licence to prove your ID?

Phil

[Panama Jack]

That`s a lot of BS (on behalf of Airport Security). It hardly serves the purpose of keeping terrorists off of airports by not challenging someone right when the violation is observed. The security agent should have asked the person-- "stop-- where is your pass?" If he would have been unable to produce it, it`s time to arrest the individual and question him later. I`m sure that would do a lot more for airport security than underhanded, sneaky and backstabing techniques like not saying anything at the moment but sending him a letter a few days later.

[Steve76]

Surely any terrorist with half a brain would be prepared with an airport security pass that would pass inspection. To book someone who is known to you is typical of the knee jerk security reaction to S11. Security has to be the fastest growing industry on the planet. The persons employed in these firms are barely deserving of the description security guard. They are ignorant of aviation and yet are responsible for the monitoring of our actions and movements.