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PAXToronto
24th Jan 2008, 14:46
I'm sure Air Canada does not want to advertise this too widely, but it is nice that they let the crew participate in what could be the final flight for this famous 767.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080124.wgimli24/BNStory/National/home

Platinum206
24th Jan 2008, 15:46
That Gimli Glider story still to this day referenced many times during principles of flight ATPL theory.

S'land
24th Jan 2008, 18:13
Wouldn't have thought it possible to glide one of those for 200 miles. Obviously I'm wrong.

Tediek
24th Jan 2008, 18:45
I hope they do put the plane in a museum. Does anybody know the cycle/hours on the frame?

Elastoboy
24th Jan 2008, 18:54
The glider has gone into the sunset
I have lost count of the number of times 604 took me to LAX and across the great white north.
Those were the days prior to 9/11 when I sat jump seat on 604, all I had to do was show my license and log book and i was never turned down, even if the check capt was along for the trip.
By the way I hear BA are going to be training some 777 crew here, so they are better prepared in the future!!!!!!! :E

stagger
24th Jan 2008, 19:10
Wouldn't have thought it possible to glide one of those for 200 miles. Obviously I'm wrong.

The story says 200 kilometres not miles.

S'land
24th Jan 2008, 19:14
Sorry Stagger, been a long day here and my eyes are playing me up. Still 200km seems a long way as well:

stagger
24th Jan 2008, 19:39
Sorry Stagger, been a long day here and my eyes are playing me up. Still 200km seems a long way as well:

Not sure of the actual distance - but some of the stuff I've seen that's been written about the incident seems to suggest they achieved a glide ratio of about 12:1 which would mean it was more like 150km.

Fris B. Fairing
24th Jan 2008, 20:16
Was anything saved from the "Galungung Glider" (B747-236B G-BDXH) when she was scrapped? She deserved better.

Poof in Boots
24th Jan 2008, 20:25
The Canadians are experts at gliding commercial aircraft! Remember the Air Transat A-330?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236


The Captain even has his own website. What a poseur!!

http://www.robertpiche.com/en/index.asp

Contacttower
24th Jan 2008, 21:05
Eric Moody has a website as well...

If I was the Captain of that A330 I wouldn't be shouting too loudly about the whole gliding incident...it was an outstanding piece of flying...but at the same time it does verge on a case of superior skill being used after the supposedly superior judgement has failed...:=

BelArgUSA
25th Jan 2008, 04:23
Of course, Boeings and all other airliners glide like a brick...
Every newspaper or TV reporter will mention that to their faithful public...
xxx
Cessna-something glide ratio... about 15:1
Boeing 747-200 glide ratio... about 21:1
xxx
For an altitude of 11,000 meters (36,089 feet), a 747 will glide 231 km...
Oh yes, for the nerds, that is "no wind" distance...
Best gliding speed, some Vref + 70 kts = probably some 210 KIAS...
Wish I had an angle of attack indicator to figure best L/D.
And I hope I have the airmanship of the Gimli and the Air Transat 330 guys.
xxx
No too bad for what many of you call my old junk.
You are lucky to get 40 km glide from your C-172 Chikenhawk at 10,000 ft.
:)
Happy contrails

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU
25th Jan 2008, 15:44
By the way I hear BA are going to be training some 777 crew here, so they are better prepared in the future!!!!!!!

"Better prepared" in what way? Perhaps they should sign S 1st Officer Coward up as a training Captain. :ok:

PAXToronto
25th Jan 2008, 18:20
Scroll down a bit for some great photos of her flyby at yul. Amazing!

http://www.yulaviation.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=95407#post95407

EyesToTheSkies
26th Jan 2008, 11:34
I went to a lecture a couple of years ago given by Eric Moody. He said that "they" had recently presented him with the left hand control column from 'XH.

Michael111
20th Mar 2008, 19:55
Hi

Did the "Gimli Glider" ever come across the pond to the UK? If so, anyone have a picture?

111

st7860
20th Mar 2008, 19:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MHy6yy3Z00

Graybeard
21st Mar 2008, 17:54
The typical fixed gear Cessna or Piper has a glide ratio of about 8:1. The F-4 Phantom fighter had a 15:1 GR, but at hellish high speed. Airliners are typically 15 to 20:1.

After the Southern Air DC-9 double flameout crash in 1977, I could find no airline pilot who really knew the GR of his ride. Most were surprised it was so high. Some were offended by the question.

TACA flew a brand new 737-300 into heavy rain on approach to New Orleans in 1984, and had a dual flameout. The one-eyed captain landed it safely on a dike. Boeing pilots flew it off with great care. They ordered continuous ignition in rain after that.

I met that captain several years later on a 767 trip. He had a crop dusting and banner towing operation, so was a real pilot. He had lost the eye in an attack by rebels as he was enroute between San Salvador and the airport.

GB