Emirates Canadian Road Show

[ataboy]

For all who are interested, Emirates will be conducting a Canadian Roadshow at the following locations

Toronto
Fairmont Royal York
100 Front Street West
January 29, 2008
1:00pm to 4:30pm

Calgary
Hyatt Regency
700 Centre Street SE
January 30, 2008
2:00pm to 5:30pm

Vancouver
Hyatt Regency
655 Burrard Street
January 31, 2008
2:00pm to 5:30pm

Bring the following
Licence and Medical
Online Application (if submitted)
Logbooks

More info available at http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com

[MidgetBoy]

Anyone showing up?
I'm considering going in just to meet some pilots. I obviously don't meet the reqs for a FO app and I'm not a UAE citizen for the cadet program.

[ng78]

Did anybody go? Too bad I didn't see this ahead of time. I also don't meet the requirements yet, but it would be interesting to get some information.

[Willie Everlearn]

Judging by the response to this post, it would appear there are not that many interested in joining Emirates.:confused:

Or, is it that not as many in Canada meet their minimum requirements?
There was such an exodus to Dubai just a few years ago. Did this dry up the 'pool' here? Have pilots realized the $tate of thing$ in the Emirate$ and with EK in particular?:confused:

What's going on?

Just curious.:ok:

[North of You]

The canoeing in Dubai is terrible. :}
I would have applied but I only have 10k hours with no jet time so I don’t meet minimums.

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Emirates is a pretty good gig. Visited a few of my Transat buds in Dubai last week. One guy has 4 apartments and another bought a 5 bedroom villa 5yrs ago and is renting it out for some pretty good cash every month. Not to mention the good accomodation Emirates gives you and the great destinations and shiny new widebodies:E

[tbaylx]

The problem with getting guys in canada is that Ek wants 2000 hours of jet time. Unless you managed to get on with one of the major carriers in Canada, its hard to come by jet time, though there are tons of guys running around with 7K + hours of turbo prop.

Until EK chnages their policies on jet hours, they will be missing out on some quality canadian drivers who just don't get the opportunity to get onto jets with 500 hours total time like most euopeans can.

[North of You]

Very well said, and accurate And if they would like to take one more piece of advice from me, it would be to open up a base in YYZ. If they did that I would say they would have a flood of interested parties attending one of their howgoesit meetings.

[J.O.]

I don't know alot about the cost of living in the UAE, but I suspect that living in Canada, where you'd be maintaining your own home (as opposed to living in company-provided accommodation), and paying Canadian taxes would make their current pay package even less attractive.

[Willie Everlearn]

Emirates is the opportunity you've been waiting for.
(I don't work for Emirates at/on any level)

Speaking first hand, the UAE is a fantastic place to raise your family.
You'll find that Emirates is a much better opportunity than anything on offer here in Canada.

Of course, we have to decide for ourselves if we're willing to roll the dice and take a chance.

There's no pride in paying Canadian Taxes for what we get. Is there?? (have another look at your payroll deductions) :=

We have a good standard and quality of life here, for sure. But one thing you may not know, especially if you haven't lived abroad, is that there are other countries out there that are just as good or BETTER. The UAE is one of those places, especially Dubai, where it is quite liberal when compared to places like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. No question, it takes time to adapt to a place like DXB. Probably two years. But, once you're set, you're into a whole new life and lifestyle.

At Emirates, you won't have to wait months on end for a family physician and the hospitals over there are anything but sub-standard and poorly equipped.

There are Canadian schools for your children.
Canada is always accessable from DXB but the sunshine, palm trees and water sports, tennis, hockey, soccer, whatever-strikes-your-fancy lifestyle will more than tickle your fancy.

Whether or not the airline schedules you with enough days off in the month to enjoy it, may be a different story. You'll have to figure that one out.
I'm surprised in a way there aren't the numbers from here applying.

If it's jet time that's holding you back, just wait for a few more months. The industry is changing for many of the world's airline.
There is 'ideally' and 'realistically'. Realistically, EK requirements will have to adapt.

Good luck to all,
Willie :ok:

[kingoftheslipstream]

As Colonel Potter used to say on M*A*S*H*...

horsehockey!

I do work for Emirates an' folks it aint what it once was... been offshore since about '89 and it's brutal over here at the moment.

I don' need ta go in ta all the details - it's all been said. Check out the Emirates threads on this site.:ugh:

Think b4 ya leap folks.

k-o-t-s

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Agreed KOTS, life ain't a bowl of cherries over here, I work right down the road from you, but Willie has a few good points. Depends on where you're coming from and what you want. The money is better than back at home and it's not a bad place to live. One of the things I like the most is being able to see places I would've never been able to see if I stayed in canada.

[Willie Everlearn]

KOTS is quite correct in that the UAE (not just Dubai) and the jobs to be found over there (not just flying aeroplanes) is not what it was 10-15 years ago. But, it's still better than what you face over here in the Great White North.

I too would suggest a read through the various threads on the subject and caution that 'some' posters have unrealistic expectations and therefore the spiral into disappointment is understandable. (More money for less work doesn't work any more) While others 'livin the dream' often fail to observe the less desireable aspects of living there. It's a balance between the two.

If you want to go over there, and are offered a pilot position, you have to give it time once you get there. Approximately, two years, before you know whether it's for you or not. It IS a different world, a false economy, and anything but reality. It IS what you make of it.

The bigger problem and greater difficulty will be for those individuals who return to Canada after several years of living tax free and working over there in an environment quite unlike here. I haven't read postings from those individuals who have returned and shared that experience with us.

Now that would be an interesting read.

Willie :ok:

[555orange]

Definitely a shock going from tax free to paying CANADIAN tax again. There is no excuse for us paying a 50% tax rate...basically we are getting screwed by the dispicable govt and their socialist money waste program. Whatever happened to S. Harpers platform sell of no tax on dividends??? Did anyone remember that one besides me? You only live once...there is no second go....do you want to be that far away from all the people you value...and be stuck indoors in that hot weather? After you've done all the stuff to do in Dubai or where-ever...then what? Do it over again? Its like a forced vacation where you can die with a small pile of cash in your pocket. And yes...its SMALL. If your gonna make millions, ok...maybe it would be worth it. But just to have an extra couple grand a month.....not worth it. But...if you got NO job...its a start....

[MidgetBoy]

I was going to show but couldn't get off work. Though I'm way under-qualified with only a CPL, no ME or IR, it'd be nice to get to meet some other people in the airline aviation business besides the private pilots around the smaller airports.

[Craic Ore]

Guys (and gals now),

Think LONG AND HARD before making the commitment to come over to the desert. I think some of the stuff above is misleading and keep in mind you'd be trading lifestyle for money.

After being here a few years I can say it is so far from perfect and to be honest about 80% of those who join are counting the days to get out of here. Is is all bad? Well of course not or I wouldn't still be here. But if I could do it all again, I would've looked more seriously at setting up with AC or CX so i could spend more time back home.

After travelling to all the corners of the earth, you can say all you lie about Canada, but man, I respect the place and the people more than ever. Are the taxes too high? Well yeah, but at least the last few years are with a surplus and in the long run we'll be a lot better off than many including our neighbours to the south.

With our new scheduling rules, most guys are getting home only once a year now for about 3 weeks while they spend time apart from the family over the summer. Does that sound like a good life? And have you spent much time in 40, 45, 48 C heat? Not as pleasant as -20, trust me. Just ask around and see if you know anyone and get opinions from them. You'll hear both good and bad. In my time, the news that comes from our management is always one more cut from our working conditions and we're powerless to do anything about it. In fact if you complain loud enough you can either get a loss of the bonus for 2 years, a demotion or a firing. Ever think about that? And if you fail the command, one more crack and FO for life. It's nowhere near a gimme, trust me.

I won't bore you with more details, it's all on the middle east forum. Just make sure if you seriously consider the move, you do it with your eyes fully open.

Good luck,
CO

[TopRudder]

Thanks CO for the great information. I agree totally with you. For me Canada is at the top of the list of places I would like to live.

After travelling to all the corners of the earth, you can say all you like about Canada, but man, I respect the place and the people more than ever. True :D