Is this some sort of Joke?

[ShinjukuHustler]

I saw this appalling advert on a well know job search site for aviation vacancies, the recruiment agency advertising are obvisouly not to blame but is this the state of affairs in DXB??
Please note the following
Salary: 5000AED = 690GBP!!
Demanding: Yes, look at job description.
Rewarding: How? with the 5h1tty salary?
Hours: 6days/week
Contract: 3yrs...if you haven't died of starvation in DXB cos of the high prices and increasing.

Good luck finding someone...

Now that's a hustle!


DUBAI

5000 AED
Our client operates in the Corporate Business Jet market in the Middle East and urgently requires a Dispatcher to be based in Dubai. Your duties will be to help in obtaining flight and landing permissions for customer flights worldwide and additionally to arrange other services through their agents
such as ground handling, fuel, flight plan filing etc.

This will be a demanding, but rewarding, role working six days a week.on a shift basis. Initially the contract is for three years which is renewable.

[DeltaIndiaSierraPapa]

I am thinkin that 5000AED is a typo and they actually meant 50000. That HAS to be the case!

[canadiangal75]

I have seen this ad also. Unfortunately it is the reality here in DXB. The problem is we have people who are willing to work for these salaries. Which in return penalizes everyone. The problem is, if you don't accept this 5000 AED a month salary, someone else will. Why should the company offer more? Pitiful I say. I am currently on the job market and trying to squeeze 10 000 AED out of a company and finding it difficult. You pay 6500 USD to do the required course, then pay extra to do the exam and get the license. It works out to about 7000 USD for your GCAA license which is about 27 000 AED. One will have to work 6 months to cover the cost of the license with a salary of 5000 AED.

[baob2oba]

I'm sincerly wondering how you can manage to live in DXB with 5000 aed a month and no benefit, decent accomodation/transportation allowance !!!!!!!

GND Dispatchers at EK turn around 10.000aed a month + accomodation & benefits, 4on/4off. Flight dispatchers get a better treatment !

[ferhankaka]

okies you guys are scarying me, i am about to do my dispatch course and come to dubai, should i change my mind?
Seriously witout experiance, what the hell m i going to do, i mean make around $3000 per month working at a jewlery store!

[baob2oba]

Why does everybody want to come to Dubai, does it still appear like an eldorado from the outside ??? ???
There are maybe 120 to 150 flight dispatchers in the whole country !

Hey Ferhankaka, 3000$ in a jewelry store here ? mmmm in best case divide it by 2 !

Hey El Sol, you have a curious understanding of FD wages...... Starting FD is around 16k at EK! Petrol's cheap ? the RTA will have its price increased very very soon, and a few other naughty measures are in the pipe, just to make sure residents start using public transportation.

Anyway, with 5000 and no accomodation, you certainly don't have enough to buy a tank to fill, just enough to rent a studio in some east desertic area of the city !

:ugh:

[ShinjukuHustler]

I think baob2oba has highlighted something, there seems to be a pereception that DXB is some sort of 'eldorado', to quote from his post, Yes, DXB in the past has been a fertile feeding ground ground for expats, relatively high salaries, augmented by a tax free regime, low cost of living and generally free or subsidised accommodation with maybe a car or car allowance thrown in. I myself have experienced this there but it is a far cry from the current reality.

An ever depreciating Dirham, thanks to the americans and their clueless, live for today approach to economics. The 'washington peso' has dragged the dirham plus all other pegged currencies to new lows, meanwhile eating into savings and driving up inflation, approximately 10% at the moment in UAE and 14% in Qatar.

No proper or enforced rent controls in UAE, so you are at the mercy of the landlord.

Inflation, as mentioned, is raising the price of basic food items.

Socialising in DXB is not cheap, and neither is shopping...for all those whose prime motivation is the above.

The bottom line is that as an inexperienced dispatcher you will barely earn enough to live on, let alone have a life, in DXB. Don't believe all this nonsense from the dispatch school about top jobs available, it's all camel crap and any posts you see about this guy and that girl getting a great salary as their first job is just propaganda spread by the school. It doesn't happen that way. I don't hire newbies on high salaries,( although I offer a hell of alot more than 5000doodaas) I can afford to but I dont, it upsets the other staff, diminishes moral and gives the new guy nothing to aspire to salary-wise.

Dreams of graduating with your new dispatch licence and walking into EK or EY or even the mob in SHJ need to be tweaked somewhat to be in line with the reality that they generally want to see several years of proven experience on your record before they will even look at you. They work in high volume, high pressure environments that cannot be recreated in the dispatch school, it's impossible to mimick that kind of environment artificially, so why should they take a chance on you?

Your best bet, if you want to stick around the gulf area is to apply to as many operators as possible and take the best offer that comes along, bearing in mind that you are competing with the ones who are willing to work for pittance and a kick in the arse and for whom 5000dirhams is alot of money, living 15 to a squat!

It's a hustle!

[Bergkamp10]

Hi Guys,

The recent posts certainly make for inetresting reading...:ugh:

I may know a good solid comapny within the U.A.E. looking for Dispatchers and Flight Planners. The salary will certainly be in the region or over AED15,000 per month. PM me if anybody required further info, etc,etc ;)

Happy hunting

[merlinxx]

Yup so do I, but slavery was outlawed many moons ago! 15K AED is OK if yr hungry & from the the east, but for a UAE National or an experienced expat, take a hike.

Justify the salary on a cost benefit analysis where someone has to live in a single/family situation (not a 12 guys sharing a 2 bed apartment), run a car, schooling, food etc. Heck also the rise in the cost-of-living index, answer that lot with candor sport, I dare you!

[MSF]

It's the same all over.
I got an e mail last week , a company looking for a station manager in Kandahar for £23k plus 6k bonus!

[ferhankaka]

:) I wish i could just jump on a jet and make my way down there, but the whole problem is that i am about to start my dispatch training in July and i have been doing some serious reseach. I am getting some mixed results though, some say 5000, some like u say 15,000! not sure which one to put my bet on....

[ferhankaka]

well these are like really mixed answers, what i dont get is how can some pne pay 15,000 dirhams a month for some one that has no experiance?

[pratham]

i can see people talking only abt money 5 k or 15 k ...

guess wat u can even earn 20 k at a company i knw, but sacrificing you personal life. you earn the money and do wat. for me money is important and so is my life...


everyone have their point of view and we should respect it ... there are many people whu wrk in dubai with high qualifications and earn just 3-4 k AED.

those who are starting their careers, like i did a while ago the market isnt yet saturated but we need to show them wat we have and what we want. i guess the rest depeds on personality....

start the race, dont think of the finish line, looking at the booms in aviation industry i believe we all will be in demand within next few years..

best of luck with job hunting .... (ferhankaka.... dnt wrry u will do just fine :-) ..... )

[canadiangal75]

As for myself, I also believe personal life is more imporant than money. But there is a minimum. I won't go to work for so little money. it costs money to go to work. It has to make sense. I now know that working 6 days a week is too much for me. So you won't see me working 6 days a week for 5000 AED a month!

[ferhankaka]

Thanks pratham...

Condition of life is important, but not when u are starting a new family and trying to kick ur career of at the same time.
I am thinking that the aviation boom in the country would last a little bit longer then we all hope, and hope they value our services enough to give us a little better quality of life.
Getting into Ek or Etihad a big dream, hell i have been dreaming of it since i came to the states 5 years ago. But that is not going to happen as soon as i get my dispatch lisc. But i guess there are alot more hole to poke ur hand in and see if u can find gold!

[Cumulonimbuss]

hows everyone doing down here.. seems like the money hunt is still on, any comments on the current market... seems like ppl are now accepting the lowest of the offers just to make it in, Good for the companies thought, i see ppl putting in a lil more efforts (specially wen the management spiders are passing by)

Wish the stimulus plan proposed by Obama makes a difference for the entire world... (Thinking positive doesent harm isnt it?)

[Heloboss]

hey Hustle, Did I read your blog correctly...You are a hiring POC? Lets have a chat. I am an experienced Dispatcher with an FAA Cert. Flight Crew Experience and a prior Air Traffic Controller. :8

Hope to hear from you soon!