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Roadtrip
22nd Mar 2002, 08:40
What's happening at Atlas. Rumor is that the company is furloughing in punishment for voting down the tentative agreement (TA) contract.. .. .Also heard that Gemini just voted for ALPA representation by heavy majority.

fr8box
22nd Mar 2002, 18:29
Don't know much about what's going on there at Atlas but it does sound a little suspicious doesn't it? The other half of Atlas...Polar Air Cargo, seems to be going great guns with the military business. As a matter of fact they are hiring first officers right now. I'm willing to bet they won't be hiring furloughed Atlas pilots.. .. .As far as the Gemini ALPA vote is concerned, the number was approximately 60% for ALPA representation. God knows they need the help as they are parking and furloughing also. Wonder what kind of retribution will go on there?

non sched
22nd Mar 2002, 18:50
Heard a rumor that the Carlisle Group is ready to pull out of its investment in Gemini. If that happens, Gemini will have to operate on cash flow. Could be tough times. I expect the Atlas pilots will strike. It's the only option they have left. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />

Roadtrip
22nd Mar 2002, 21:22
I'll be interesting to see if the AACS crews scab or not if Atlas strikes. I'd hate to be the Polar MEC right now too. With the intentional blurring of business by AAMT, they'll have some serious decisions to make also. No matter what happens, you can bet AAMT has their pockets and bank accounts stuffed.

Van Pelt338
23rd Mar 2002, 19:06
They are also transferring some A/C to Polar. Sounds like management is up to pitting the crews against each other.. .. . . .Atlas Air Announces Flight Crew Furlough . . . .Purchase, NY - March 22,2002 -- In response to continuing softness in demand for heavy lift air services, Atlas Air, Inc. today announced the furlough of a portion of its crewmember workforce. The furlough, effective May 1, will initially consist of 40 employees. This action is a follow-up to last year’s crewmember furlough.. .. .“We are currently in the low point of the annual freight cycle, which has been further impacted by the global manufacturing recession. As a result, our crewmember workforce is presently overstaffed,” said Richard Shuyler, Chief Executive Officer of Atlas Air, Inc. “While we continue to see signs of an economic recovery, it is only prudent to more closely match our crew staffing levels to the current level of activity in the market.”. .. .The furlough could ultimately include up to 170 crewmembers, depending on market conditions. In order to provide sufficient time to retrain crewmembers who will be reassigned to a different equipment type, the furlough will be phased in over a period of thirteen months. Atlas Air operates Boeing 747-400F’s and 747-200F’s; each aircraft type has certain unique training requirements. . .. .“It is never an easy decision to furlough valued employees,” Shuyler added. “However, it is necessary to take this difficult step to meet our current business needs. We hope that the economic conditions that prompted it will improve sooner rather than later, to a point that will obviate the need for the greater part of this furlough.” . .. .Atlas Air currently employs a total of 1,109 employees, of which 757 are pilots and flight engineers. . .. .Atlas Air, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:CGO) and is a United States certificated air carrier. Atlas Air offers its customers a complete line of freighter services, specializing in ACMI contracts. These contracts include the provision by Atlas Air of the Aircraft, Crew, Maintenance and Insurance for some of the world’s leading international carriers.

747400CA
26th Mar 2002, 05:45
My Atlas friends tell me that this is just the latest battle in what they describe as an unbelievably long and painful war that didn't have to happen.. .. .That Atlas management would pit the Polar pilots against the Atlas pilot was a forgone conclusion from the moment the acquisition of Polas was announced.. .. .The old Polar -100s were / are headed for scrap as soon as they run out of time. Pronouncements of ALPA solidarity notwithstanding, is it reasonable to expect Polar crews to refuse to fly the -200s / -300s being transferred by the parent corporation to their certificate and thus 'fall on their sword' and forfeit their jobs for their Atlas brethren?. .. .An unfortunate and sad place to work right now - all the more so as Atlas might have been a great place to be at one time.. .. .Ex-Lorenzo types indeed - has anyone heard from L.... since gave her heartfelt "...we'll make this a better place..." speech in Purchase on the occasion of the memorial service for M.... last year?


Edited by me (no need 4 names) Thanks Hogg

Stratocaster
8th Apr 2002, 17:12
'Heard that a 747 class (with F/O's) started very recently in MIA. Is that for the -200 or -400 ? Atlas Mainline, AACS or TNT ???