B737 Atlas Blue skids off runway in Deauville (France)

[Palyvestre]

Due to ice on the runway. No casualties.

http://www.crash-aerien.com/forum/sortie-de-piste-dun-b737-de-atlas-blue-a-deauville-vt5880.html

[flightopsab]

I am not much of a French reader... Does the thread say that the flight originated in Marrakesh?
Thanks!

[AircraftOperations]

Yes. Arrived Deauville approx 07.40z

[Flightrider]

if you put 169 pax on a 737-300 (as the article says) then I'm not surprised it won't stop in the runway distance available.

[fireflybob]

if you put 169 pax on a 737-300 (as the article says) then I'm not surprised it won't stop in the runway distance available.
Today 19:56


On what technical basis do you make this comment?

Until all the evidence has been collected who knows? It's far to early to speculate as to the cause of this overrun.

[Colocolo]

In a later entry ( Of the above French forum) they mention a 737-400 and of 168 pax.
Not very familiar with 73s sitting configurations, but I guess a -400 can take 169?
Cheers

Colocolo

[naceur]

does anyone have the weather and runway condition at the time the ac landed

[Expressflight]

Surely the "pompiers" (fire crew) didn't really take 'some 10 minutes' to arrive on the scene, as reported in the link report.

[Geezers of Nazareth]

If my 'school-boy French' is still working, it says something about the Fire Services arriving after 10 minutes ... and they arrived 'on foot' because of the ice!

Nice pictures, though. It's on Airliners.Net already. Since when has a 15-foot (sorry, 5 metre) collapsible ladder been part of the escape equipment?

However, glad to hear that everyone got out okay.

[RampTramp]

Having recently been SLF on Atlas Blue and not been able to fit my legs behind the seat in front, I'd believe 169 on a -400!

RT

[emirmorocan]

Why only one escape slide?? Was not It a evacuation?:confused:

[Expressflight]

Geezers

I think you will find that the quip about the pompiers arriving on foot was a joke.

[lina]

hi everybody,

i would like to have some information if a accident happened with atlas blue flight?
what happened after the accident?
what about the aircraft?
the pilot?
does he still works for atlas blue?did he need to wait the investigation?
they were no people injured ...
please can anyone help me?
:confused:

[Mercenary Pilot]

Oh look! Another airline that has pay-to-fly co pilots has had an accident. At least nobody died this time!

Disclaimer: I'm not saying that is the reason for the accidents, but you have to wonder about the safety ethics of an airline who let hour builders fly their aircraft.

[bleedfail]

Mercenary Pilot

You don' t know what you are speaking about:mad:

No comment:ugh:

[Mercenary Pilot]

Involved with them (or BMM/8A) are you?

I do know what I'm speaking about and you just made "a comment" :rolleyes:

[bleedfail]

No , I am not.

But the minimum to apply to ATB as an F/O is 400 hrs on type and it is a Moroccan CAA requirement .( 750 hrs as captain). It is on every recruitment websites...have a look

So...no time builder in ATB
Sorry

[Mercenary Pilot]

AtlasBlue is owned by Royal Air Maroc who are a notorious hour builder airline.

[bleedfail]

I agree

But they fly only with RAM as far as I know.

By the way the crew(both highly experienced) of Deauville incident have been all cleared following the investigation.

[Bearcat]

i think it's apt that the national ploughing championship be held in France this year....getting loads of practice so far.

Those engines scooped up a load of muck judging by the spray on the fuselage from max reverse........that'll be costly.

[slip and turn]

yes I alluded to the likely problem of crud through the engines on the Limoges thread but expensive or not, it didn't seem to stop the Irish flying that one out pretty damn quickly.

[lina]

does anybody knows what they did for precaution?
does the pilot still works for atlas blue? or not?
i would like to know if it's possible...
what do they do after such an accident...
can anyone help?
thanks a lot:confused:

[captplaystation]

slip and turn, I object to your suggestions that the "Irish" just showed up with a bucket of water , sloshed it through the engine and off they went.
We really are a whole lot more professional than you imply, and I believe they would have insisted on a high pressure hose as a minimum.
lina. . . . why don't you phone Atlas Blue and ask ? If you have some need / right to know, I am sure they will be happy to help, and if not. . well you are there according to your profile , so you know how it goes.

[slip and turn]

Sorry Capn! I missed this one - this is definitely your old self :p

I've been praying I didn't have to get on the tractor ever since someone said they saw it at Stansted very soon after it went ploughing ...

I guess it's becoming ok again now though 'cos if something in the works was going to give, it would've by now :ok:

[captplaystation]

Funnily enough, on the excellent piccies that were posted on a link here a few pages back on the other (RYR) thread obviously ,the inside of the cowlings looked quite clean, which was a surprise,anyway a boroscope isn't so difficult to do and you are allowed after a birdstrike for example to complete several sectors before inspection if there is no vibration or obvious damage .
I suppose if the gear can accept our "world-renowned" landings, a bit of a quickstop courtesy of the french-organic-super- glue ain't gonna tear it off either . . . . Yikes.

[slip and turn]

Actually if anyone asks me, your company's world renowned landings are excellent when they don't involve apres-atterrissage questions about downwind expediency or runway conditions, or heavy braking when there ain't-a-gonna be time to cool 'em down before the next sector :suspect:

Personally I am all for a firm arrival at any time, but I have marvelled at some centreline greasers after horrible crosswinds, gusts and shears.

Just don't let them take the edge off, eh? ;)

[lina]

well captplaystation i asked atlas blue,and the only thing they told me is
that the investigation is not finished yet and they can't give me more personal information...:ugh:
i'm just curious because i used to fly many times a year with atlas blue..so i care about the cabin crew that's why i'm worried

[fl380]

The problem was on both side. The ATC gave them partial information about the rwy condition, but the pilot should try to collect more about that and to take care about landing and evacuation.

In this case, the France is a `mother` country, the Moroccan CAA does not blame them.
They have repaired the B737 with 2 brand new engines and so (approx. 10 m US), and at the same time they have fired the pilot back to the Balkans where he is from. He flies among us every day.
That is the end of the story.:ugh::sad:

[lina]

well i think mister fl380 that the pilot is not fired permanently,i think he had to wait about 3 months for the investigation that is taken by the french autorities..
exactly maybe he is now in the balkans but just temporarly...
that is what the atlas blue agencies told me about the balkan pilot...
it's a shame that they can play as they want with the pilots destiny
:eek:
sorry for my english...

[IRISHPILOT]

AB does not have hour builders YET. I found their simulator training thorough (though I have heard that depends on the TRI of the day) and the CAA validation checkride more challenging than some checks in JAA land.

If he is from the Balkans, then he is not only employed by Rishworth, but also by JAT and can return anytime he wants to their full time contract. Also, they recently got JAR licences in his home country, so there are now many more options...

cheers IP

[lina]

so what you mean mr rishworth is that he has still a job in his home company JAT
well thank you for your information...

[lina]

sorry i mean irishpilot not mr rishworth...:ok: