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outside_loop
2nd Jan 2008, 16:20
I have a JAA CPL/IR and am about to do an instructors rating. I wont be able to convert this to an ATPL while working as an instructor and i wonder what will happen to it when EASA licensing is in place?

Its perhaps an unknown at the moment, but does anyone know whether a JAA CPL/IR will simply be converted into the EASA equivalent? Call me a cynic, but i'm suspicious of what might happen during an admin change like this!

thanks

S-Works
2nd Jan 2008, 16:48
I should not worry bout it. By the time they have taken over and got sorted according to current time scales you will need to have gotten your full ATPL or the exams will have expired and you start again anyway.

outside_loop
3rd Jan 2008, 07:15
the exams only expire if you dont renew the instrument rating for more than 7 years, which i will, i just wondered whether anyone had any inside knowledge about what will happen in the transition

rightbank
4th Jan 2008, 09:27
For those flying bigger aircraft your I/R used to be automatically renewed when you did your base check on the sim. Now you do a type specific LPC rather than an instrument rating, and can't legally fly a Seneca in airways. If you don't renew your I/R within a certain time (7 years?) would you have to go back to CAAFU (or whatever its called nowadays) or would it just be a renewal with an examiner to reactivate it?

CarltonBrowne the FO
4th Jan 2008, 12:46
I looked into this last summer. The examiner (Keygrip) checked up and assured me that as long as you have a current IR on a multicrew type, renewing a single pilot, multi engine IR is just a matter of a flight test with an IRE- there is no time limit.

Whopity
4th Jan 2008, 15:44
If you have a JAA licence EASA won't make any difference to you. If you have a National licence you probably won't be able to retain it after a certain date

rightbank
8th Jan 2008, 18:16
Carlton
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that that was the case. I kept thinking that maybe I should do a renewal every 3 or 4 years just in case. I did a renewal just after the rules changed but then thought it a waste of money as I never flew a Seneca or similar in airways in the following year and have very little likelihood in needing to do so in the near future.

But tomorrow the rules will probably change again!!!

BillieBob
9th Jan 2008, 19:38
The draft Commission Regulation on Personnel Licensing states:
Any pilot licence, including any associated ratings and qualifications, and medical certificates issued or recognised by a Member State in accordance with the JAA requirements and procedures and valid at the time of entry into force of this Regulation, shall be deemed to have been issued in accordance with this Regulation.It is only national licences and ratings that are under threat from EASA

heli-mad
9th Jan 2008, 21:09
Hello chaps,

my ATPL exams will expire this April and i dont think i will do the IR before that. I know that you have to do 6-7 exms again before you can do an IR. Any ideas if EASA will affect that i.e do all the exams again??

Cheers

H-M