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airfort
18th Dec 2007, 06:52
Bair is selling tickets at BD 5 and GF is retaliating by selling at BD 9. And they are saying the two airlines are complementing each other! ! what a fxxxxxg joke. Those people in GF who decided to cut the fares to this level must be shot for a crime they are intentionally committing. The GF flights are either full or overbooked creating chaos at airports, even during the discounting period. So Why discounting ?

MTOW
18th Dec 2007, 08:37
... and here's me thinking you were referring to Turkey -v- Iraq(!)

knowsup
18th Dec 2007, 08:48
where is BN? where is anyone who represents GF during this time of chaos?
This is now entering a liabelous state for those who are being paid to lead. Another nail in the coffin. Most countries one would be put in jail for allowing this to spiral to this extent.

Icarus
18th Dec 2007, 13:59
My understanding is that this particular baby is a scheme created by VP Corporate Strategy - BN's right hand man - in order to create havoc for Bahrain Air at their launch. A shot across the bow if you like; I would suggest this is normal practise - but not so sure GF is in a healthy enough state to be going this far - especially as passengers in this region on those routes are perhaps more fickle than most. I guess this will have no long term impact on Bahrain Air at all but will hit Gulf Air's revenues.

rextravels
18th Dec 2007, 16:16
This practice is completely silly for GA to be involved in. As they are bleeding enough already, so much for BN cutting the losses looks like they will be right on track to lose a big pile of cash. Management is making themselves look like complete idiots to the rest of the world.
There has been no real change since BN has been put in the acting Boss position. The fact that there have been no statements from management or the chairman who like to hear himself speak.
It look as though nothing will happen over the holidays as your leader is busy on holiday Europe, and the chairman is just spinning his crystal ball to get the answers before he again puts his foot in his mouth.
I would just bunker down as there will be no immediate changes

Trader
19th Dec 2007, 04:55
Holy arm chair quaterbacking batman!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many seats are they selling at the reduced rate....for how long.....what routes......etc etc etc.

Unless your involved in the strategy how can anyone here know if it is a good idea or bad? We don't know the details and the actual cost...we don't know anything.

Based on past management teams I can see why peole get this way. Best to judge after the facts not before.

airfort
19th Dec 2007, 07:06
Best to judge after the facts not before.


What are you talking about? if you read the newspapers you will find that GA has advertised selling 500k seat cheap. If you go to www.gulfairco.com (http://www.gulfairco.com/) you will know what routes there are selling cheap. Advertising in newspapers and selling this cheap is costing the airline an arm and leg… you should know this if you were part of the management or this why you are management of the past? Try booking some of the routes and you will see some of them are full.full.full….

It is understandable why Bahrain air is selling cheap, they are introducing the airline. GA is discounting for no reason at all. This is a typical practice of a failing sales management and a complete loss of direction and innovation by top management.

When will these people stop draining the airline, or have someone responsible start boot some axxxs ?

Cheers

left_to_first_class
19th Dec 2007, 18:34
Guys,

Don't get too mad, check out the small print on the BD9 ONE-WAY + taxes offer:

Fares are available for sale until 5 January 2008.
Travel is permitted from 13 January until 31 March 2008.This period is very low as most people are back to work and school and if my memory serves me right, much of the planes around this time to those destination in the sale had many many empty seats.
So why not sell of seats which would be going empty whilst at the same time damage your new competitor?
Of course you good stop flying the planes but then the pilots and crew won't be happy :(

Sultan85
20th Dec 2007, 02:50
I totally agree with you left-class, however in charge in both sales departments knows what there doing, in the end of the day the customers will be happy with such a deals and the airlines will get the cash!:cool:

ddd
26th Dec 2007, 08:48
In today's Bahrain Tribune:

Bahrain Air, the second national carrier
of Bahrain, is upbeat to create its own
market rather than sharing the existing
market with Gulf Air.

Director of commercial operations MS
Fakhri said that Bahrain Air would not
share market with Gulf Air rather it would
create its own market by offering
affordable fares.

“We are not after anyone else's market
share - we are aimed at those who can't
afford to fly regularly at the moment. We
are two different products, which should
complement each other but our price has to
be cheaper than Gulf Air as we are a low
priced airline.”

Fakhri added that Gulf Air had a bigger
fleet and a bigger route and for this reason
they shouldn’t feel any pressure from
Bahrain Air.

Last month, after the official launch,
Bahrain Air has become the first privatelyowned
premium low-priced carrier (LPC),
with a paid-up capital of BD8 million and
an authorised capital of BD10 million, will
start operations as second national carrier
of the Kingdom of Bahrain from January
17. Bahrain Air will use a fleet of modern
Airbus A320 aircraft and has ambitious
plans to expand its operation within GCC,
Middle East, Africa and the Indian subcontinent.

The new airline is poised to grow in line
with the regional surge in the aviation
business and would achieve business
objectives outlined in the three-year plan.
In the meanwhile, Bahrain Air
announced the completion of selection of
first batch of 44 cabin attendants.
Captain Ahmed Yaqubi Director of
Operations and Maintenance, said: “The
candidates were carefully selected through
an intensive examination which included
the test of their personality, efficiency in
the area of customer service and their
English language.”

The groups included 24 candidates from
different nationalities. This has now raisin
the total of the selected candidates to 44
Cabin Attendant from 12 different
nationalities. The two groups will leave the
Jordan to join an intensive course that takes
10 days covering First Aid, emergency and
safety procedures and fire-fighting. The
training shall be conducted at the Jordanian
Training Academy, which has been
approved by the Civil Aviation Affairs in
the Kingdom of Bahrain. Company
officials were keen to choose the training
centers with a reputable performance and
efficiency in order to maintain its high
standard of service especially in the area of
air safety.

He added: “Bahrain Air’s aim is to
strengthen the Bahraini labour market
through recruiting Bahrainis to work within
the in-flight services and encourages
Bahraini females to apply for Cabin
Attendant positions through its website.
This is in addition to other areas of
specialisation.”

According to senior official Bahrain Air
will set a new standard in its category while
tapping the huge base of passengers flying
on GCC and African destinations. Initially,
the airline will cover 13 destinations and
140 flights weekly across the region.

Backed by leading investors from
Bahrain and Saudi Arabia with 68 per cent
and 32 per cent shareholding respectively,
Bahrain Air is upbeat about grabbing a fair
market share by offering an innovative
product.

The induction of first batch was
announced at a reception attended by
Chairman Shaikh Mohammed bin Abdulla
Al Khalifa and airline’s managing director
Ibrahim Al Hamer.

Bebsi Nocoke
26th Dec 2007, 09:11
Another GF in the making, let's be serious, they can't even do it properly if they tried.

Poor website design, not even referenced properly and a career page that is blank.

Keep at it boys, soon enough because of your airline mismanagement you will bring the whole island down.

Moronic, inbred saturnism!

Sultan85
26th Dec 2007, 09:38
Bebsi Nocoke....

I'm not in a position to defiance any GF policy :oh: but, I can't see any problems in GF website design, its totally normal, and the career page looks updated.:rolleyes:

Again, nothing agents you or the others how don’t agree with GF current policy, but just for farness in the points above;).

Thank you.:)

left_to_first_class
26th Dec 2007, 09:50
Don't be a veggie on Bahrain Air ....

Taken from their inflight menu selection on the web site...

Vegetarian Feast
•Tandoori chicken Salad with Vegetarian dressing, Mint Yoghurt & Bread Roll

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Bebsi Nocoke
26th Dec 2007, 09:52
Sultan my friend was talking of Bahrain Air not GF....jist?

GF has passed the stage of meeting any common sense, with all possible elements to succeed, it took the bahrainis know how to sink it and an their complicity to help foreigners do the same.

What a reputation Bahrain is making itself...hence the term "Indians " if the gulf, but even those make better than you do.

Cheepos!

Keep at it!

Sultan85
27th Dec 2007, 06:50
I really fell sorry about what I read ((some times)):rolleyes:, if there is any valuable subject we can discus as a professionals, it will be much better!:ok: