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Aeronut
24th Nov 2007, 15:14
Want to refresh my memory of speeds etc anyone know of any links I can use prior to getting my hands on the club books?

S-Works
24th Nov 2007, 15:39
what do you want to know? I am the proud owner of one.

Pilot DAR
24th Nov 2007, 16:11
The Flight Manual is the easiest way, but you can also refer to the original Type Certificate Data Sheet for some of the information, though some speeds will not be given here. It is the most official version of the stated information and limitations for the aircraft.

Type certificate data sheets can be found here: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

Cheers, Pilot DAR

S-Works
24th Nov 2007, 16:25
Interesting link thanks. What about for french built 172's?

Mine is an FR172K and has the big Contintal IO360KB in it.

smarthawke
24th Nov 2007, 22:00
Bose
Carry on down the list, it's in numerical then alphabetical order. look for TCDS A18EU (Rev 8).

The Reims Cessna became part of USA Cessna as far as the TCDS goes some time back.

Best place for engineers to check control range of movements, prop type etc when it's Annual time.

S-Works
25th Nov 2007, 17:20
Unless I am being really dumb I cant find it!

smarthawke
25th Nov 2007, 20:39
Try this link then Bose:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/7bf85e7516d5fcbe8625724200689480/$FILE/a18eu.pdf

If that link doesn't work (and being a dumb engineer, not sure how to shorten it!) then go to Pilot DAR's link above, click on 'By Make (TC Holder)', then 'C' for Cessna, click on the Cessna arrow to expand the list, scroll down to the bottom and then click 'More data', scroll down to FR172K and open that in PDF.

Or read this bit from it (!):

V. Model FR172K, 4 PCLM (Normal category), 2 PCLM (Utility category) Approved December 1, 1976
Engine Rolls Royce Continental IO-360-K or IO-360-KB (1977 and 1978 models)
IO-360-KB (1979 model and on)
Fuel *100/130 minimum grade aviation gasoline (1977 model)
100LL/100 minimum grade aviation gasoline (1978 model and on)
Engine limits *For all operations, 2600 r.p.m. (195 hp.)
Propeller and Landplane
propeller limits 1. McCauley constant speed propeller
(a) 2A34C203 hub with 90DCA-14 blades
Diameter: not over 76 in., not under 74 in.
Pitch settings at 30 in. sta.: low 12.0°, high 25.1°
(b) Governor
(1) McCauley C290D3/T15
(c) Spinner, Cessna Dwg. 0550328
Floatplane
1. McCauley constant speed propeller
(a) 2A34C203 hub with 90DCA-10 blades
Diameter: not over 80 in., not under 78.5 in.
Pitch settings at 30 in. sta.:
low 11.3°, high 24.8°
(b) Governor
(1) McCauley C290D3/T15
(c) Spinner, Cessna Dwg. 0550328
*Airspeed limits (IAS) (1977 Model thru 1979 Model)
(see Note 7 on use of IAS) Maneuvering 105 knots
Maximum structural cruising 129 knots
Never exceed 163 knots
Flaps extended 85 knots
(1980 Model and on)
Maneuvering 104 knots
Maximum structural cruising 129 knots
Never exceed 163 knots
Flaps extended 85 knots
V. Model FR172K (cont’d)
C.G. range Landplane
Normal Category
(+41.0) to (+47.3) at 2550 lbs.
(+35.0) to (+47.3) at 1950 lbs.
Utility Category
(+37.5) to (+40.5) at 2200 lbs.
(+35.0) to (+40.5) at 1950 lbs.
Straight line variation between points given
Floatplane: (Edo 248B-2440)
Normal Category
(+39.5) to +45.5) at 2550 lbs.
(+37.0) to +45.5) at 2110 lbs.
Empty weight C.G. range None
*Maximum weight 2550 lbs. (Normal Category)
2200 lbs. (Utiltiy Category)
2558 lbs. Ramp weight (1979 model and on)
Number of seats 4 (2 at +36, 2 at +70)
Maximum baggage 200 lbs. (+95)
Fuel capacity 52 gals. (two 36 gal. tanks in wings at +48) (49 gals. usable).
See NOTE 1 for weight of unusable fuel
Oil capacity 8 qts. at -21.5 (5 qt. usable)
Control surface movements Wing flaps Takeoff 0° - 10° (Landplane)
Landing 0° - 20° (Floatplane)
0° - 40° + 0° -2°
(1977 model thru 1980 model)
0° - 30° +0° -2°
(1981 model and on)
Ailerons Up 20° +1° Down 15° +1°
Elevator tab Up 28° +1° -0° Down 13° +1° -0°
(1977 model thru 1980 model)
(All FR172K floatplanes)
Up 22° +1° -0° Down 19° + 1° -0°
(1981 model and on)
Elevator Up 28° +1° -0° Down 23° +1° -0°
(Neutral position measured with the bottom of the balance area
flush with the bottom of the stabilizer)
Rudder Right 16° + 1° Left 16° + 1°
(Measured parallel to W.L.)
Serial Numbers Eligible: FR17200591 through FR17200675