Emergency Services activity in vicinity of Edinburgh airport

[shoey1976]

Hi all
Just received a text from a listener about lots of emergency services activity at Edinburgh Airport. Could well be nothing, but does anybody know anything?
Best wishes
Ian Shoesmith
Radio 5 Live
BBC News
020 8624 9505

[AltFlaps]

Mr Shoesmith,

I thought you did quality pieces of aviation journalism ?
I didn't think reactive ambulance chasing was your thing ? :hmm:

[shoey1976]

I do -- but I have to fit those longer-form investigations around my day-job!! Currently producing the Drive programme on 5live -- hence my request!
Ian

[BOAC]

May I recommend an excellent traffic service from the BBC?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/whereilive/travelscotland/home/regions/index.shtml?name=edinburghandeastofscotland&place_name=Edinburgh&place_number=4253

[shoey1976]

from my colleagues:

Prince Andrew's plane's been involved in an emergency as it flew into Edinburgh Airport. The pilot had to call for help because of problems with the landing gear. It meant the aircraft had to come in at a faster speed than usual. Five fire engines were sent to the terminal just after quarter-past-five, but were soon stood down. A BAA spokeswoman says the royal seems to be in good spirits and will be continuing with his engagements in the city.

[eastern wiseguy]

Wow thanks...can rest easily now:hmm:

[JackHowe]

That's spookey, shoey!
I was listening to BBC Radio Five Live and 'monitoring' the news about Edinburgh Airport. As soon as I heard something definite I came here - only to find word-for-word what I'd just heard on the Beeb - and then to find that it was from the same guy!

Was it a scheduled flight (or was HRH piloting?)?

[dazdaz]

Shoey......
"The pilot had to call for help because of problems with the landing gear."
Umm Q400?:uhoh:

Having said that, what does the 'Q' actually signify as to the build model?

[theredbarron]

Quote" The pilot had to call for help because of problems with the landing gear. It meant the aircraft had to come in at a faster speed than usual"

Doesn't sound right unless a gear fault has led to a loss of hydraulics which then meant they couldn't lower flap but I'm :mad: if I can think of a landing gear problem that could do this on its own. With dodgy gear I'd want as few knots on as possible. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be adding any.

S'pose we'll need to wait for the AAIB report, unless we've got an insider somewhere..............

[old,not bold]

Q = Quiet.....................

[fantom]

Cummon everyone.

At least Shoey tells us who he is and what is his business.

Better the devil you know than the other sort.

[Bernoulli]

C'mon guys. Shoey is at least up front about his trade andt tries to do a honest job of it. It's unlike many of his contemporaries and he deserves a bit of slack. If you've got any gen then let him have it.

[theredbarron]

Absolutely no criticism of shoey implied or intended and apologies if any taken. He is a broadcaster, probably not an aviation professional, and therefore not equipped to question the information that he was given, which he has accepted in good faith. :)

All I'm doing is questioning the information so far given out by the media - It doesnt ring true:confused:

[AircraftOperations]

Was a UK Military BAe 125 type aircraft.

[GBALU53]

From all this, it sounds like an aircraft flap problem, be it a military aircraft or civil no flaps lmeens anding a little faster than normal are we a big aeroplane of a small one we do have a long runway after all?.
Or was in in a Helicopter?

[EDIspotter]

On my way home as tonight as I drove up to Barnton onto the A90, I saw 3 aircraft approach in about a 10 minute spell (5pm news was just finishing as I passed the casino and there was nice wee queue at Barnton as normal - Fifers :=), all looked normal to me in terms of altitude and speed, and I see similar just about every day.

[flyingweatherman]

Hmm helicopters with flaps?? Dunno about that.

The BBC Scotland site is now stating it was an elevator trim that was jammed. Maybe the conect was wrong of the plane landing faster. Obvisoulsy a flap failure would make the speed on landing faster, but maybe they just meany that with HRH on board and captions going off, they wanted to get it down faster!

[theredbarron]

The Herald this morning reports it as "problems with the landing geear" and goes on to explain "the aircraft experienced a jammed elevator trim". That would be the elevator on the nose wheel then...............:ugh:

[Maude Charlee]

A BAA spokeswoman says the royal seems to be in good spirits........

Is that journalistic code for "drunk as a Lord"? :}

[shoey1976]

Mornin all
Thanks for the kind words of many - and yep, I'm just a humble hack who until a few months ago didn't know one end of a plane from another.
Since February though, alongside my day job at 5 live, I've become a bit of an aviation bore to say the least. I spent three months investigating fatigue in commercial aviation, and recently discovered that GSM had had its ETOPS approval temporarily suspended (only to be reinstated after about a fortnight).
I've made it a policy of mine to be completely upfront with everybody on pprune, and to make clear that I am a BBC journalist.
Best wishes, and thanks to everybody who's PMd, emailed or rung me in the past. You know where I am in case there's ever anything you'd like to share...
Ian
07769 977665 / 020 8624 9505
[email protected]
(PS there is something I'm looking at, at the moment, please see separate thread)

[Porrohman]

The Glasgow Herald reported that "two Sea King helicopters, one each from Prestwick and RAF Boulmer in Northumberland, were scrambled".

Would they have done this if anyone else's private plane developed a similar fault? Or even for a commercial airliner with 150 passengers aboard? Are the Scottish Ambulance Service combined with the airport and local fire services not sufficient to cope with a small executive jet with eight persons on board? Or is scrambling two Sea Kings the standard operating procedure for any emergency at EGPH?

[Brian81]

I cant comment on this particular incident (cuz I know nothing) but when a tomahawk with 2 POB went down at the end of the climb out where I used to control we we're sent two sea kings, one RAF, one coastguard. Both pilots died. no injuries on the ground.

That was a confirmed accident though, not just a full emergency.

Bri.:ok:

[jonesthepilot]

At least HRH Prince Andrew is safe. Close call that one. Funerals for royalty are such a pain for us guys in the middle east! Ruins your leave.