Pac Blue / Jetconnect Recruitment

[blah blah blah]

Howdy all,

Can anyone point me in the direction of info on these two? Ive done searches but cant find anything too recent.

Specifically Im after pay scales, rosters, benefits etc.

If anyone has definate info that could help me out I would really appreciate it.

Cheers

Blah

[Chocks Away]

Corrections to the above:

*4 weeks paid leave only!

*Auckland base runs 24/7 with alot of "back of the clock" flying and min. rests (12-14 hours).

*Tax free allowances more like 6000/7000 KIWI DOLLARS (!) and remain behind inflation and overnight/layover expenses.

*3 Jetcon guys have transfered, not "lots". The rest decided not, after conditions became know. Jetcon total $$ package is ahead of Pac/Polyblue.

*Oz QF crews touring through NZ to fill in crew shortages there at Jetcon.

Happy Landings:ok:

[blah blah blah]

Cheers yigy,

Couple more questions for you. Are the guys generally members of ALPA? Just wondering how it works as a contract pilot, ie. can you negotiate terms in the future?

Also what is the basic set up of the recruitment process? Im under the impression that it is pretty much just an interview. Is that about right or am I just being hopeful?

Finally is there any consensus on the best way of getting the NG rating?

Cheers

Blah

[licensed&lethal]

Much rather be at Jetcon. Just seems to be the place for me, and believe it or not the team is pretty good in most aspects. Had a meeting a couple of weeks ago to confirm that it is here longterm and rising to the competitive challenge that has apparently been laid down
The reality is if you do decide to move on. It looks good in your logbooks and on your CV that you have been trained to a Qantas regime.
And finally goodluck to you in finding a slot to do the NG rating. apparently Qantas Mel is heavily booked through to Feb-Mar 2008.
All da best L&L

[737capt]

What are the roster patterns like out of AKL?

Thanx

[On Guard]

Any talk of the Pac Blue rating being scrapped or sacrificed.

Virgin is now a sacrifice, Pac Blue still 30k from my understanding.

[Cloud Cutter]

For that to happen they would have to employ their piltos, so no, I don't see it happening in the near future. The going rate is $30K AU for a 737 rating, that doesn't include 5-6 weeks living over there.

Chocks

Risworth contractors get nearly 6 weeks (28 days), I think that's because Conair are employees, and public holidays are recognised.

737Capt

The roster patterns are becoming progressively less attractive. One of the new tricks seems to be 2 am finish, with an avo shift or standby to back it up.

[licensed&lethal]

My 5 cents worth.

I reckon if the companies bonded you instead of making you pay for the type rating, they could at least get 2 years out of you and if you decide to leave before hand then they will recoup some of the cost if not all of the costs.

It also provides the company with a bit of Pilot retention as fence hopping seems to be the order of the day at the moment.:ok:

[licensed&lethal]

The roster patterns aren't bad @ JC. Lets face it you are there to work so you will do some hours. If you do over 65hours there is incentive pay. A few overnights nothing serious.
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[aerostatic]

The type rating through QF for JC is subsidised - total cost around A$15k (accommodation/expenses your own cost) . The problem remains though that if you ask a pilot to pay for a type rating he/she feels no sense of commitment to the company. So lots of pilots are just coming to get some jet hours then move on to something more lucrative or career orientated. Fair enough I guess.

[haughtney1]

Have recently had an offer from JC...with the "bargin" of a $15K AUD 737 classic type rating thrown in.
Needless to say I politely turned it down and offered an alternative of being bonded for a period of time.
I don't expect an email anytime soon:hmm:

[Pole Smoker]

Good on ye haughtney1.

Don't pay for your job - easy. These outfits (VB Jet* Pacblue Jet Connect etc) are making plenty of $ - if they need workers - it's their obligation to meet training requirements. Dont be sucked in guys and gals - simply say no. The money is much better in your back pocket than the CEO's bonus.

:ok:

[blah blah blah]

For those of you currently working for the likes of Jetconnect and Pac Blue how are your training requirements met?

I take it the company pays for the sim, accommodation etc? For the likes of Pac Blue where the nearest sim is Aus are sim trips scheduled on the back of a normal route?

My guess is that paying for a rating may eventually disappear in Aus but NZ could be a way off, I think there are just too many people trying to get that jet job.

[Cpt Link Hog]

Chocks/Cutter

Thanks for telling it how it is :ok:

737NG Rating all up will cost you around 38K NZD Sim/flights/accom/food ect + 7 weeks no income

Around 50k NZD Gross Pre Tax earnings ....:{

[Cloud Cutter]

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Yeah just like most airlines. Our sim duties are generally sheduled as a standalone trip.

[DutyofCare]

Licensed&Lethal: I was wondering if JC are picking up the costs of training ( accommodation/airfares ) in ML during the endoresment phase and is a potential FO employed with the company whilst in the training stages? Thanks for ad. :ok::ok::ok:

[SkySurfin]

Duty of Care: To answer...... Your basically left to your own device to sort out the rating. JC will book you training slots but thats about all they will have to do with you till you get back to NZd. They have started providing the airfare back from MEL and they have also started to do a few extra sims for the guys when they get home with the rating- These cover the NZ IF renewal and JC procedures. You then do about 2 weeks induction where they put you up at the mighty centra. Then your sent off to start your line training..... hope that helps

[meagain]

Are they , or will they be hiring any DEC's or do you have to start in the RH seat?? :rolleyes:

[Cloud Cutter]

Both companies hire DECs as required.

[meagain]

Thanks for that info. Anyway, sorry to be a bother, but do you need a 73 type rating for DEC, or can you get a job by doing the rating?? Plenty of Boeing time but not 737.... Where are the basings?? I know this is a rumour network, but I would appreciate any info available, I'm just too lazy to look elsewhere if the truth be known.
Thank You
me

:)

[lesgo]

I still can't get over it... Here I am sitting in the middle of no-where, just been given two type endorsements - with the third (turbine) commencing in two weeks, paid airfares to locate to the middle of no where, paid accomodation, and still earning above the award wage. Yet the Airlines??????? What a turn around - I'm truley baffled :confused::confused:

[On Guard]

Yigy

Check your PM's

Thanks

[Swanrider]

Yigy2,
Chocks mentioned "4 weeks paid leave only" and you say that's incorrect?
It IS 4 weeks Annual/Paid Leave only, with Conair. The Public holidays you mention are ancillary, hardly worth a mention and can't be counted with Annual Leave entitlements... "incorrect" ? ...fair go.

DTA: Alot of days aren't rostered as 24 hours, so it's abit keen multiplying by $96. Capts flying flat out currently do get that and more, while F/Os not even $500NZD, so I can see where Chocks is coming from.

The Jetcon transfers, granted a couple more than Chocks mentioned and what it says about the place they've left but I keep hearing questions and complaints about why these guys with B737 classic time only, jumped straight into management & training positions with no NG time or company route knowledge, while others inhouse could have fit the bill?

Anyway, enough said, not my problem anyway.
...better things to do.:ok:

[On Guard]

So do you get sick days etc as a contractor?

[Cloud Cutter]

Yeah, you get up to 12 I think it is. Something like 1 every 2 months.

[komac2]

just abit of useless info, as mentioned above re: JC chief pilot move to pac blue i.e rishworth/conair etc - jetconnect were advertising in this morning nz herald and probably elsewhere for a operations manager and Chief pilot.

even more useless info the ad was placed virtually next to a Emirates AD fo F/Os

[Cloud Cutter]

On Guard

At the moment, most new F/Os are getting the base of their choice, different story for Captains though. There are a couple that commute from CHC and to AKL, not sure how that would work though.

[Ivan R Donn]

Gidday all, some top information on this thread, many thanks. Has anyone heard if there are any interviews for Pac Blue coming up?

Cheers,
IRD

[astinapilot]

Anyone got any info/advice on things to study for interview.

[astinapilot]

Thanks, great info. What is the answer to Windshear? I would get a surface wind at both ends prior to takeoff and just be monitoring by airspeed and holding a bit more speed up my sleeve after rotate? On approach I would also be looking for any rapid increase in airspeed and go around at stick shaker if this rapid rise was encountered.

This is from ATPL studies, does it sound ok?

Sim now in FBT's at shopping malls, Mike Pero's flight experience.

Cheers