FAA Categorization Question

[Panama Jack]

The FAA for a number of years has assessed foreign aeronautical authorities to see if they comply with ICAO standards. Category 1 countries are compliant and their air carriers may serve the United States. Category 2 countries are not compliant, and their air carriers are allowed to continue to serve under restrictions or banned from flying to US destinations.

I am wondering whether airlines whose aircraft are registered in a Category 2 country are permitted to operate in United States Airspace to overfly (not landing in the United States)?

[BelArgUSA]

Hola PJ /
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Cat.1 is no restrictions...
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Cat.2 makes a carrier subject to FAA increased surveillance and monitoring, such as a "ramp check" by the "friendly inspectors" upon almost each arrival, of crew licences, aircraft logs, MEL deferred items, Jeppesen manuals revision dates. In a Category 2 situation, the air carrier can maintain its current scheduled routes, but not add other destinations (until back to Cat.1 status) - If that air carrier stops operating to one destination, cannot resume service to that destination (until it is back to Cat.1 status again).
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Cat.3 is suspension of all operations to US destinations, but still permits commercial flights overflight of US airspace, as per ICAO basic 1st and 2nd liberties of Chicago Convention. Of course, non-commercial flights are still permitted to land in the US (i.e. maintenance, refueling) but subject then to overflight and landing permit.
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A few years ago, Argentina lost its Cat.1 status for a few months (2002), when we nearly went into bankruptcy, and the country's economy in shambles, and was subject of these ramp checks in MIami. I even got a "notice of non-compliance" from a "friendly FAA inspector" who found that our Jeppesen set of ERM manual revisions (Europe-Mediterranean Area) was out of date. by 3 or 4 days, yet I showed that the aircraft had not been in European routes for a week, only on South American and US routes, for which the Jepps were properly revised...
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The inspector insisted that manuals out of date (even not used but present in the flight deck) to be properly marked "not for navigation use" - ¡No me tire la pata, Che!
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Happy contrails

[Panama Jack]

Hola Che,

The inspector insisted that manuals out of date (even not used but present in the flight deck) to be properly marked "not for navigation use" - ¡No me tire la pata, Che!


Que fastidioso ese inspector!

A few years ago, the FAA dropped the three category system and now only has two, as described on the following website:

http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs_initiatives/oversight/iasa/definitions/

I understand the ramifications on service into and out of the United States. The question stems from a discussion with a colleague on the plans to launch service between one Category 2 country and Europe. I questioned whether Categorization would legally prevent flight through US Domestic or Oceanic airspace, but he assured me that IASA only prevents operations to and from the United States, not overflight. Seems to make some sense, since Cuba and the United States have some minor political disagreements with each other yet Cubana de Aviacion flies to Canada and Europe.

[BelArgUSA]

I doubt that George W. advised Fidel that he is no longer Cat.3...
George does not smoke Romeo y Julietas...
Maybe Fidel should close the corridors to the umpteen daily US flights in his airspace, if a few Cubanas have to go around to make it to YYZ and YUL...
Well, a loss of airway fees.
Like you said, PJ... minor disagreements
Chavez must be laughing...
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Happy contrails and cigars

[Panama Jack]

Politics is politics.

And the business of Business is business.

They are even spelled differently! :}

[411A]

Category 3 ended a long time ago, as far as the FAA is concerned.
It is either Category 1 (in compliance) or Category 2 (not in compliance).

I am wondering whether airlines whose aircraft are registered in a Category 2 country are permitted to operate in United States Airspace to overfly (not landing in the United States)?

The answer is yes, generally speaking.

[Meek]

I wonder what Cat ' Reach' have???