Best rate of climb

[Dude~]

Had a positioning flight the other day where initial rate of climb was 5200 fpm which I thought was great! No doubt others have seen more so please post your best rate of climb in your aircraft! Zoom climbs count too as long as you make the distinction between initial ROC and zoom ROC!
(Maybe this thread has been done before but I tried searching for a thread on this subject but found nothing even using Google)

[A Very Civil Pilot]

600 fpm - PA28 :ok:











(oh, and probably about 5500 fpm in a 737)
shouldn't this be in the 'Answers' forum, not questions? :p

[Dufo]

150fpm.. Piper seneca I with one mixer inop :E
..and some 3000fpm+ in empty EMB120.

[westinghouse]

500 fpm, airbus 340 at max wieghts.:ok:

[Maude Charlee]

6000fpm+

Empty Dash 8 Q400. Most amusing. :E

[Green Guard]

Had a positioning flight the other day where initial rate of climb was 5200 fpm which I thought was great!

I think it was NOT great. It was stupid.
It may have been 5200'/min or 7200'/min becuse you were either ferry flight or short sector or underwight anyhow. SO why use ALL UP engine power for that TOW ? Have you ever heard for Flex T/O thrust or power ?
:ugh:

[Check Airman]

Out of curiosity, what was your aircraft?

[Dude~]

I think it was NOT great. It was stupid....Have you ever heard for Flex T/O thrust or power ?

Steady with the judgment mate, I never said anything about max thrust - that was on reduced thrust!
Yes I have heard of 'Flex thrust' that's an Airbus thing I think - my aircraft doesn't have it, it uses a single de-rated alternate take off thrust.
Check Airman - its an Embraer 145.
Oh, did I say how fun it was?!:)

[Dude~]

You've gone very quiet Green Guard aren't you going to jump to any more conclusions?!

[Green Guard]

Steady with the judgment mate, I never said anything about max thrust - that was on reduced thrust!
Unless you were on a 32 knots increasing headwind (or decreasing tailwind, (mind you: Not even a dumb duck would ever take off with that much of a tailwind), then my dear friend the ONLY thing left for your excuse is to call yourself a liar !

[Clarence Oveur]

You are completely out of line Green Guard, and are frankly making yourself look like an idiot.

An edit or deletion would be a wise recourse.

[Spitoon]

I think it was NOT great. It was stupid.I'm not a professional pilot, just a simple controller, but I do think some people just want to suck the fun out of everything!

Come on Green Guard, have you never tried something in an aeroplane just to see what it can do? I'll own up to seeing just how high I could get in a SEP. Better still, tell us what you do for fun!

[LH2]

Unless you were on a 32 knots increasing headwind (or decreasing tailwind

...and one wonders what, reduced thrust or not, does the wind component have to do with rate of climb? :confused:

[Dude~]

Unless you were on a 32 knots increasing headwind (or decreasing tailwind, (mind you: Not even a dumb duck would ever take off with that much of a tailwind), then my dear friend the ONLY thing left for your excuse is to call yourself a liar !

What an utterly absurd post! Ok I understand how an increasing headwind can give you a short term increase in rate of climb, but to call me a liar is just plain rude.

I took off on a calm night, 7 tons below MTOW and experienced a high rate of climb, although not even double a normal heavy take off climb rate. Who are you to question what happened? You weren't even there and even if you are an Embraer test pilot you wouldn't call me a liar because you would know what the aircraft could do. My, did I say how fun it was!

[Cartman's Twin]

I'd have to agree Dude.

Best RoC I've seen on a civil a/c is 8000'/min from a F900 off EGLL for LFPG, mightily impressive and entertaining to boot.....

[doubleu-anker]

For civilian A/C the Learjet 23/24 with turbo jet engines (coal burners) 10,000ft/min, initially. I have personally witnessed this.

Military A/C, well where does one start, Lightening or Typhoon?

[TopBunk]

An empty 747-400 can be entertaining. I have seen the APFD go into altitude capture passing 3000 ft climbing to 6000 ft out of LHR. Taking off at about 200 tonnes even using max derate can be quite a handful, and is best handled by hauling off lots of power at 1000 ft agl.

Downwind to land at idle thrust is also quite entertaining, with the QOTS being very reluctant to slow down / go down. Often have to end up using the gear for drag.

As to absolute rates, I can't quantify it exactly, but would suggest that if full thrust were to be used, that something approaching 10,000 fpm would be achievable.

Empty 737-400 also quite amusing - remember positioning EGSS-EGLL and using full thrust for fun - ended up at about 5000 ft by the end of the runway:)

[The Flying Pram]

At the other end of the spectrum my 21 year old flexwing usually manages 6-700ft/min, but one chilly winters day I got to 900ft from brakes off in 1 minute dead. I thought that was pretty good for 38 hp...
Been up to 10,000ft a couple of times too.

[old,not bold]

At the other end of the spectrumFrom the real bottom end of the spectrum, 600-700 fpm is NASA- type ROC.....

My Prentice took 65 minutes to get to the bottom of the airway at FL80 in 1967 on route Damascus - Baghdad ("aircraft outside airways risk being shot down" it said on the topo map), and that was with a head start, since Damascus is quite high up.

[Dude~]

I see that NATS have implemented a maximum rate of climb for civilian aircraft in the London and Scottish FIR/UIRs of 8,000fpm in class A to E airspace.

This came into force on 5th July 2007 and was partly as a result of an investigation into a near miss where TCAS couldn't keep up with the closing rates.

http://www.airproxboard.org.uk/docs/423/2003.pdf

[boski66]

MD 82, 50 tons, initila ROC more than 5000 ft min ( out of scale) :D
average ROC 2500, 3000 ft min till 220FL :ok:.

F 104's avarage = initial ROC more 20'000ft min, clean config :ugh:

ps: Green Guard :eek:, stay relax and take a deep breath .

[topjetboy]

Surprised to see no-one has mentioned the mighty 75! Proverbial spanked monkey. I like!
Glad to see Green Guard has shuffled off to his hole.

[mavrik1]

Test flight 737-400 after heavy Maint. 10 tonne of fuel and heap of kitty litter in fwd hold 9000 ft per minute not even trying! Pretty fun, closest thing to travelling to the moon.

[rigpiggy]

10k in 90 sec from brake release.

[Piltdown Man]

2,300 fpm, no engines, no zooming - average rate of climb. Aircraft: a glider in a stubble fire, many moons ago when these were legal.

PM

[Not Long Now]

Several years ago, a lovely Russian chap was at Biggin Hill airshow and wanted to go home. He called Thames radar, briefly, and was noted by us at London to be 3200' about 5 miles before Detling. Then his mode C vanished for a few sweeps, reappeared a little garbled then eventually settled at FL410 just to the East of Detling, approx.6 miles later. He then called us. We were somewhat amused as he was supposed to be at 4000', but in somewhat stilted english confirmed he was at FL410. Some hurried coordination later, he turned up towards the Baltic and went on his merry way home. About 45,000fpm we think. He was a Fulcrum. Best bit, he was followed out by a King Air who commented on the lovely vapour trails, albeit they were vertical!

[javelin]

767 - years ago, brakes off to FL430 in 7 1/2 mins with full derate.

This summer, A330 on an air test, full power takeoff with 20 tonnes of fuel on board - 8,500fpm up to FL110.................. No it didn't pass the flight test :sad:

[PA38-Pilot]

1000-1100FPM on a PA38, full fuel and 2 onboard.

A good updraft helps... hehe