Anyone one know if this is for real?

[Clyde Crashcup]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn-eGZSfmyY

Looks kind of fake, but how often does anyone get to witness one of these?
I was told it was China Airlines, but couldn't find anything on the net about it except this video.
If it's for real, who, when and where?

CC

[The Bartender]

You gotta be kidding.... :ugh:

[TopBunk]

If you have to ask .......:{:ugh:

If it makes your day, then yes it's real, the rest of the sane population will be happy in the knowledge that another gullible person is in cloud cuckooo land ..... bring in the men in white coats, nurse:hmm:

[Clyde Crashcup]

No, in fact I'm not kidding. I've seen the reconstruction of a similar incident and in fact it looks pretty much just like this.
Either of you ever seen an airplane this size porpoise?

Anyhow, the question is who where and when if anyone with a ciil tongue is out there.

CC

[Rainboe]

Clyde- I have a ciil tongue, whatever that is. Take the hint- drop it. The where is on someone's computer, who cares when. You're making a fool of yourself. Yet another internet hoax, to add to the millions of others out there.

[TopBunk]

Clyde

Your profile describes you as being 'at the pointy end, of course'.

Of what may I ask?

I'll also give you a clue - name a modern aircraft with nose wheel braking.

TB (Captain in my time of B737, A320 family and presently B747-400 aircraft - not MS Flight Sim but the real thing).

[Contacttower]

I've seen this video before and what I've read is that the plane was remote controlled and being filmed for use in an advert.

[PBL]

I've seen this video before and what I've read is that the plane was remote controlled and being filmed for use in an advert.

I think a couple of seconds thinking about how much it would cost to equip and temporarily certify a FLUF for remote piloting, as well as getting insurance for such a stunt, as well as paying all the emergency services that would be on standby and likely used, and whether anyone would let their airspace and airport obviously near a city be used for what would likely be an accident, as well as whether people would be standing on the ground a couple hundred meters away, might suggest to an advertising agency as well as their clients that it is much, much cheaper to do the film editing on a computer for much the same visual effect.

PBL

[I Just Drive]

Remote Controlled? Thats an even more daft proposition than it being real.

[parabellum]

How about a remote controlled scale model superimposed on a realistic background of Schipol by computer CC? (The soundtrack is completely fake).

[W.R.A.I.T.H]

My word, how many times have I seen this one? Throw in the A319 starboard wing breaking pics too.

However Contacttower is right on the plane being remote controlled and shot as an ad stunt - except that it is a RC model of size not likely greater than 3m in any dimension. I've had a similar video of a B747 model doing a very similar bouncy baby landing and then hitting a bystander in the leg, poor chap. The bouncing is a dead giveaway. Somewhere to the end the video is blended onto a real a/c where you can see the anti-collision light blink for the 1st time.

Parabellum beat me to it :ok:

[Avitor]

The model theory seems feasible to me. :cool:

Were there pax aboard a real bucking bronco aircraft, broken necks would ensue. :=

[BOAC]

OK OK! I'll put CC out of his/her misery:)

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2913482 Posts #1-6

[Contacttower]

Either of you ever seen an airplane this size porpoise?

Perhaps it's model planes that CC sits at the pointy end of. :eek: To be fair though I wasn't sure what to think either when I first saw it.:suspect:

[TopBunk]

As I said before 'name a modern aircraft with nose wheel braking'.

16-17 secs in the nose wheel tyre smokes and the nose dips under nose wheel braking. I refer the doubting eejits to the above.

[aw8565]

Concorde had nosewheel braking!

Although it was only to stop the wheel rotating when the gear was retracted into the well....

Learnt that on me video I did....

[grababadger]

Not just the concorde, most aircraft have what's called a skid pad in the nose wheel well, which stop's the wheel from rotating once it has been retracted.

[Clyde Crashcup]

The 727 has nosewheel brakes, for one.

I'm at the pointy end of a 757 at the moment, if you really must know.

It was supposed to be "civil" tongue and if you have to resort to spelling lames, well the reply there should be obvious.

Who says the nosewheels were braking anyway?

The nosewheel can become compressed under abrupt mains braking and the smoke from the nosewheel also could have come from abrupt and violent contact with the runway.
I saw all of these things as well before I posted and I'm still not sure.
As I said, I've seen a computer reconstruction taken from a FDR and it looks just like that! The FO on the reconstructed flight told me himself that it was incredibly violent and yes, the airplane was quite badly damaged.

Just thought someone here would know positively if it had happened or that it might stimulate some intelligent discussion.
What was i thinking?

CC

[bri1980]

This one is for real: please note how different it looks from the Beer Ad: far less phoney!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh1wQ0kFQuk&mode=related&search=

[james ozzie]

We have all seen umpteen cruddy movies with models (especially in the olden days) and it is my observation that film-makers always seem to neglect one aspect - camera speed. With the video being discussed here, you can see if it was "slow motioned" slightly it would be very much more realistic. You see it with water scenes too - the waves lapping in a model tank would more closely resemble ocean swells if slow motioned. But of course nowadays simulations must be a lot cheaper.

[FLCH]

I didn't see any control surfaces flapping around while the Airbus was gyrating, and no compression on the struts either. Just my 2c worth..

[TopBunk]

...... B727 nose wheel braking

That's why I said modern aircraft

...... Concorde et others

They are nose wheel snubbers, operational only after take off on nose wheel retraction to stop the wheels spinning too fast in the wheel well, so totally irrelevant here.

.... smoke from sudden nose wheel ground conact .....

With all wheels on the ground in this video, you later on see a violent nose down pitch associated with smoke from the tyres. To me this would indicate nose wheel braking, which the A320 family does not have.

Clyde Basher, if you can't see the wood for the trees, then I am sorry, I can do no more.

To all SLF out there, I apologise to you on behalf of all the other professional pilots, there are always one or two who will swear black is white.

[Clyde Crashcup]

Care to point out where I said this was for real?


I asked if anyone knew if it was.


Learn to read.

Oh yes, and any Parthian shots you care to toss in my direction will be cheerfully unread.

CC



CC

[Rainboe]

Fight!

Strewth, some people will believe anything is possible. Even well produced, fairly realistic hoaxes, but not ultimately believable.

So please can we lay this garbage to rest, or better still, exterminate it altogether?

[mighluss]

Just found this really hard landing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOxCQZeAP3M
auch!

[AerocatS2A]

I asked if anyone knew if it was.
Which means you didn't know. Which means you are pretty gullible (come on just look at that thing, it has none of the inertia you'd associate with a large aircraft bouncing.)

[Parapunter]

It was an advert for Heineken. The 'pilot' apologises for the hard landing then wishes the austrian football team lots of luck against the dutch football team. All said in a thick dutch accent.
Is everybody happy now?

[Phil Hudson]

Concorde had nosewheel braking!
Fine, A320 family never had :cool:

[TopBunk]

Phil

A320 family - agreed - as in my post a few before yours:p

Concordes braking was on retraction to stop rotation, not for runway performance - again as I said before;)

[helen-damnation]

or this one.................:=:=:=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhUO4pdGCf8&mode=related&search=

[Phil Hudson]

Phil

A320 family - agreed - as in my post a few before yours

Concordes braking was on retraction to stop rotation, not for runway performance - again as I said before

Sorry TP, i didn't read the post that i responded to good enaugh.

[aw8565]

Concorde had a nosewheel disc brake though, not a snubber...

Concorde also had a system whereby you couldn't apply the brakes until the nosewheel had spun up, even if you touched down with full pressure on the footbrakes.

Shame Airbus didn't think of that.... (referring to the thread about A320 landing with park brake on...)

On second thought I don't have the technical knowledge to get into a discussion like this. I'll just put it on the table and run...

sound of footsteps fading into distance...