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blueb0y79
18th Sep 2007, 15:45
Well nothing to add other than the above question really.

BB

Ray D'Avecta
18th Sep 2007, 16:02
Yes we do.

The CPL (or more usually, ATPL) and RT Licence are renewed at long intervals (approx 5 years), but more important is the Multi-crew IR for the aircraft type, which is renewed anually by succesfully completing a FCL (Flight Crew Licensing) check in the simulator.

blueb0y79
18th Sep 2007, 16:10
So does that mean a trip back into a Seneca or similar to do the CPL revalidation? And also at the same time re-doing the RT licence at a local school?

Cheers

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Ray D'Avecta
18th Sep 2007, 18:49
No, its renewed by sending your logbook and LPC (Licence Proficiency Check) or FCL check certificate to the CAA. The RT licence is renewed automatically as far as I am aware.

See http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/FORSRG1102.PDF

Max Angle
19th Sep 2007, 10:35
If all you want to do is to fly at work then it's all taken care of by company simulator checks and the paper work is all done by the trainer and filed or retained by the company. If you want fly outside of work you need to meet the same requirements for each group of aircraft (SEP, MEP etc) as anyone else. The IR is also now type specific so it's only valid on the aircraft that you do your sim. check on, if you want to fly a light aircraft you need to renew your IR in that aircraft type or group as well.

airbus2boeing
19th Sep 2007, 13:36
What is RT license?

411A
19th Sep 2007, 16:15
The more enlightened FAA however, makes it much easier and quicker.
If I renew my L1011 rating (which I just did a month ago) with a proficiency check, this resets the clock (so to speak) with GA aircraft, that do not specifically require a type rating...thereby keeping it all nice and legal, for private ops.
And as for 'renewing' an RT (radio telephone, just for airboos2boeing) what a complete waste of time.
The US FCC issues one for life, no renewal necessary.
Of course, the European regulatory authorities are all about collecting fees and building empires, not necessarily flight 'safety' as such...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

RYR-738-JOCKEY
21st Sep 2007, 17:30
Of course, the European regulatory authorities are all about collecting fees and building empires, not necessarily flight 'safety' as such
Couldn't agree more...
Every six months I have to cough up around 400 Euro in order to get my feckin' license PRINTED! Yes, printed. Receive the paperwork, push the print button and mail it. That's all they do.
And because of my current contract, I'm deducted 5 Euro pr block hr for all training/checkrides. And that equates to around 4500 Euro per annum!
Sorry for getting abit off topic.

Pugilistic Animus
25th Sep 2007, 19:05
Wow I thought we had beaurocratic nightmares hers. well all that makes me feel grateful for the FAA--- I can't believe I just said that!

Max Angle
25th Sep 2007, 20:51
The more enlightened FAA however, makes it much easier and quicker.Of that I have no doubt whatsoever. CAA used to be bad but the combination of EASA (European Aviation Safety Agency) and the CAA is a nightmare. The whole thing is ten times more complicated than it was before and is it any better of safer?. No.