Excellent air

[Stefaan Kuhn]

this German Bizjet company started interviews this week. Any feedback is more than welcome.

[733driver]

Q,N

My advice: stay away from them if you can!. .Unfortunatelly I can not be too specific, but I know a couple of people who have worked there and what they had to say was not very good: Pay is bad (roughly: F/O 2000 Euros, CPT 3000-3500 Euros/month before taxes) There is no roster(24 hours standby, everyday), you (or the F/O) do everything in and around the airplane, You have to watch flight duty and resttime limitations.... .The list goes on! Lot´s had been promised not much been kept. All this info is not a result of my personal experience, though. Just what they told me. I have never dealt with them. Hope this helps.

[Stefaan Kuhn]

Thanks, 733driver. Being an airline jock now, I know from prev. experience that corporate flying is much more demanding. But if I look at their selection program now you must be ex NASA to fly one of their Citations. Hope the adapted the pay.

[+TS]

If I am right this used to be the former Grenzland Air. They have recenly (last year) taken over the Martinair Citations. What I heard is not too good. But if staying home is the alternative I would not doubt. And of course you will have to do more yourself as in the big Airlines. . .I cant say anything about the pay but 2000 E seems not no bad as an FO.. .Anyway the guys I know who flew were not to positive afterwards.

Judge yourself.

[Stefaan Kuhn]

In my case, applying as a captain, 3500 Euro's is the salary an F/O gets in my present company. I guess it isn't worth the effort for experienced guys although I'm looking forward to fly those bizjets again.

[Justin Cyder-Belvoir]

Invitation is to attend DLR in Hamburg for psychometric tests then if you pass that you get to their fixed base trainer ( we can change the panels to make it in to any type of aircraft) in Zurich for a further assessment. Pay is around 8000DM (yes I know its Euros everywhere now but this is what I was told by them) for a Captain before taxes etc.

For a bizjet job which doesnt pay to well they really want people to jump through hoops!

[LAVDUMPER]

I've seen their website.

What aircraft types would you likely be trained on if you didn't have the specific experience?

. .Which aircraft would you likely be placed on? Does anyone who is interviewing know which aircraft are likely to have vacancies?

. .Cheers

[freightdog73]

A friend of mine just left them after flying for. .1 year CJ 1.Pay was for him around 1000 Euro after. .Tax.It´s better than no job,sure but be aware...

[Jolly Hockeysticks]

What's a Euro?

[Panama Jack]

You`re joking, right? The Euro is the new currency of most EU countries. Being from "around", maybe you ought to get around more.

[silvertop53]

The Euro at this point is around 87 cents in U.S currency. I guess you have been hiding somewhere for a bit? The German outfit is paying about $3046 USD /month for f/o's which doesn't seem like a whole pile of dough pretax? <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[jetjackel]

Sounds like they should change their name.