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Laichtown
26th Jul 2007, 21:29
It seems like I have been studying this for an eternity, but have done about 20 hrs of evening study over the last 2 weeks.

Failed my first attempt last week by just one question!!

Have got the Oxford exam prep CD and was getting high 80%s but was learning the questions. Today the CD got damaged, so for the first time have gone through the confuser. Now only hitting just over 70%.

The questions in the confuser seem much harder than the CD.

Any thoughts??

Would like to sit again on Saturday, but only one more night of study left. Is it too soon?

roll_over
26th Jul 2007, 21:40
So I am sat here looking at my Trevor Thom book and thinking where on earth do I begin? Its nearly 200 pages of solid text, which is far more than I had to study for my A-levels which I have just done :eek:

I'm going through making my own notes so it's more digestible, but do I need to know all the rules, the ICAO annexes , ANO articles etc etc?


If you could help me it would be very much appreciated!

Vee One...Rotate
26th Jul 2007, 21:45
Read through it a couple of times - don't worry too much about notes. You'll get the gist.

Then go through all of Air Law questions in the PPL Confuser.

That's what I did. Make it a doddle!

V1R

Bravo73
26th Jul 2007, 22:25
Its nearly 200 pages of solid text, which is far more than I had to study for my A-levels which I have just done

What? You didn't have to read 200 pages of a single book in order to get an A-level? Aye carumba. Standards really are slipping (or you're just joking.)

Anyway, I digress. Read the book. Go through the confuser. If you're still confused (please excuse the pun!), get your instructor to explain it to you. Pass the exam. Done.

It ain't rocket science... ;)

david.g
27th Jul 2007, 09:23
Think the only way to get through air law is the same as with every subject. Reading the book chapter by chapter, making use of the exercises after each chapter which are good for memorising the information, then using the confuser.

I know air law isnt particularly pleasant but like with every subject, battle through it and look forward to the reward of your next flying lesson!

eddiec
27th Jul 2007, 18:14
I did the air law exam in april and passed it with 85%. I read the book cover to cover and didnt sit the exam untill I was getting 100% in the confuser. it was pretty straightforward otherwise but you do need to revise it occasionally to keep it fresh in your mind

Laichtown
27th Jul 2007, 19:17
eddiec,

Where are you based? I am training at Newtonards and it has an excellent set up.

DBisDogOne
27th Jul 2007, 20:11
Read the book through once, then go through the confuser (make sure it's up to date edition), then go through the confuser again, and again, after three passes, take the exam the next day, you should get 85-90%. Worked for me for my PPL exams, got me through first time.

I'm not saying this is a way to learn the subject thoroughly, it's just a method to pass the exam. you can re-read and comprehend better later when you are under less pressure.

Oh, and if AirLaw is your first exam, don't worry, it's the dullest, most tedious one, the others are more interesting.(IMHO).

Gertrude the Wombat
27th Jul 2007, 20:34
So I am sat here looking at my Trevor Thom book and thinking where on earth do I begin? Its nearly 200 pages of solid text, which is far more than I had to study for my A-levels which I have just done
Boggle! Have A levels really been dumbed down that much??

When I was a child it took two years hard work to get an A level. Air Law is a doddle in comparison, just memorise a couple of hundred pages of gibberish, shouldn't take more than two or three weeks of evenings if you're in a hurry.

Laichtown
1st Aug 2007, 17:15
Is it true that all the possible exam questions appear in the confuser?

Are they worded exactly the same?

JP1
1st Aug 2007, 19:19
Laichtown,

By far the best route to prepare you for all the exams (after reading the books of course) is www.airquiz.com (http://www.airquiz.com)

For £3 you can sit as many airlaw exams as you like.

What a site like this does for you, is make you very quickly realise what you don't know. You then make the effort to remember those particular points.

There obviously is an tendency to learn the questions, but that is not the objective, ideally you are looking for questions that you get wrong not right.

It will also throw up question that you will not find in the text books. For example one question I has was what is the VFR speed limit (under a certain FL, I think). I thought the question was a joke, a speed limit:confused:

So how many people know the answer?

Give it a go you will find it very helpful.

cheers
JP1

JP1
1st Aug 2007, 20:08
.... Obviously your bookshelf is bigger than mine:)

Laichtown
2nd Aug 2007, 17:03
I have the oxford cd-rom. Can get 90% consistently, but when I do the confuser am struggling to get 75%.

The wording of the questions in the confuser is more difficult than the cd-rom

roll_over
2nd Aug 2007, 21:17
Well after 2 days of revising I managed to pass it. Can't say Trevor Thom book was particularly useful, since many of the answers in that book were worded quite a bit differently to the answers in the paper.

How is air law in comparison to nav and met, I have them next week?:}

bri1980
9th Aug 2007, 19:29
I must say there are a few things, particularly for air law, that the Trevor Thom books don't seem to have in them.

Sometimes things that are asked directly in the confuser are subtly hidden amongst other paragraphs in the books.

What the books do is put air law in context so that you have a better chance of remembering it-not just for the exam.

Don't just try to pass the exam.:= Give the air law some respect, some of it could save your life some day!

glazer
10th Aug 2007, 14:25
When I did my air law for the IR one of the questions was: Where are the headquarters of ICAO?

I am sure this will save my life one day!:)

bri1980
10th Aug 2007, 17:06
I did say some of it! :rolleyes:

glazer
10th Aug 2007, 17:11
Ah but that's the problem. You have to cram such obviously useless information into your head just to pass an exam that should be meaningful and important instead. If the examiners really intended the air law exam to be useful and an important contribution to pilot training you would think they would ask pertinent questions instead of padding out the exam papers with useless drivel.:ooh:

glazer
11th Aug 2007, 08:48
Just think how little of Air Law you will remember after a few years! They put you through this torture and then after that you are left on your own. I cant remember for instance the various VFR rules but it has never bothered me in all the years I have been flying. So in a sense one could ask what was the point of memorising wierd rules that later one more or less ignores. Try asking pilots at your airfield what the VFR rules are!!

While I am on that topic, how does one enforce a rule about how close to a cloud you are allowed? How does one know how close you are until you arrive at the edge of the cloud? Has anyone ever been prosecuted for getting too close to a cloud? Or for being out of sight of the ground? :rolleyes:

K1200Sagian
23rd Aug 2007, 19:16
Go carefull, I thought as I was getting 95% I knew it all.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again.

All I got good at was clicking the right button on the lap top.

Made a compleat and utter Horlicks of the real thing, the actual questons were much more complex than the CD.

CD now to be used as a coffee mat,

My new CD? The boss chooses 40 numbers between 1- 191 from the Confuser, and I then attempt to pass.

I have just started NPPL.............wind from N, gusting up to 20 kts in august, Whats going on?

Merritt
23rd Aug 2007, 20:52
Im another fan of www.airquiz.com - it really helps to show up the areas you don't know too well. You can't learn ALL the questions because there are thousands and although a few a repeated, most exams will throw new ones at you each time. :ok:

Steve

thirtysomething
24th Aug 2007, 00:11
Hi,

I narrowly missed air law first time around , I didnt realise just how much benefit there was in the confuser ( which i bought before take II ) . The questions were not exactly the same but i was prepared for the style of question. Having failed it the first time i was correctly left with the impression that the questions were tricky ( e.g in a question on search and rescue signals the exam turned a " V " on its side and made it look like an arrow so i answered " we are proceeding in this direction " whereas in reality it was a " V " viewed sideways and the correct answer was " we require assistance :hmm: . The confuser and going through the answers and the explanations for them was useful. I passed with only one wrong the second time :) .




Some people dish the confuser as cheating ( not here that i have seen i will add but guys on my course ) and whilst there some merit in it , clearly understanding an altimiter setting region is more useful than the chicago convention so I sleep easy at night :E. Take ( learn ) what you will obviously need as a pilot and use the confuser for the rest .

I used air quiz also and it was a good guide for all the subjects as to the general standard of knowledge that I had but its not the tool to be used in the last days of preperation.. ( right before each exam I read over the answer explanations in the back of the confuser ) .

One thing i noticed about Air law is that many things that were covered in it , came up in different disguises again and again in the other subjects, so overall it seemed hard to leave the entire exam bank without being repeatedly exposed to what ( to me ) seems important.

Fright Level
24th Aug 2007, 02:47
I still find VFR rules confusing as it also depends on what licence you hold. There is a good drawing of VFR/IFR rules, speed limits etc in this pdf on the CAA site: www.caa.co.uk/docs/64/ATS_Classifications.pdf

For me the picture is better than 10 pages of text.

Solar
24th Aug 2007, 03:11
Just once in 15yrs G-emma, my ETA was optimistic and the airport was officially closed between my initial call and approach to land. Tower didn't respond to my after my initial call but gave me the green light to land. About the only signal I was sure of then.
I'm presently struggling through the CPL air law and couldn't agree more that it could be better thought out.

Kolibear
24th Aug 2007, 07:20
One of the advantages of taking a Flight Guide with you when you are flying is that it has all the ground-to-air signals and light signals printed on the rear cover.

And Glazer, as a matter of interest; where are the headquarters of ICAO?

glazer
26th Aug 2007, 19:34
Montreal if I remember correctly. There now, doesnt that make you a safer pilot?:ugh: