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jkveenstra
23rd Jul 2007, 10:06
http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Jetstar-in-emergency-landing-in-Bali/2007/07/23/1185042985303.html

mumbo jumbo
23rd Jul 2007, 10:23
Jetstar chief executive Alan Joyce said: "The plane would have been able to fly safely on a single engine for up to 12 hours".

Now there you see the thinking behind the CEO of a LoCo airline. :ugh:
Oh, and before all the spotters jump in and remind me that it probably could, the point is that you can see how the CEO's mind is working with the above statement. Were he not shackled by safety regulations, he would probably sanction the crew for bothering to divert at all!

Anyone wanna bet that he and his ilk havent asked Airbus to design a single engined variant? :rolleyes:

FCS Explorer
23rd Jul 2007, 10:24
The captain of the Jetstar flight headed for Bali after the aircraft's computer system detected the fault and shut one engine down.
:\:eek:
i'm not rated on the atari, but i still don't think it shuts engines down by itself...
...The plane would have been able to glide safely without any engines for up to 20 minutes....

docnetau
23rd Jul 2007, 12:17
The Age article doesn't mention it, but according to some other reports they had left Bangkok with a non-operational APU.

So of the 3 "engines" on board they were down to 1, on a plane that was only 3 weeks old. You'd have to suspect that anyone would want to divert under those circumstances...

From http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/07/23/1185042982638.html

"Before we took off the captain explained we had an inoperative auxiliary power unit and that the left engine was compensating for this, running the power of the plane," Mr Messer said.

Presuming this is true you'd really have to question if they should ever have even taken off without a functioning APU - especially for an ETOPS flight?

Feather #3
24th Jul 2007, 03:32
Whatever reservations I may have about J*, I severely doubt that they'd depart on an ETOPS sector illegally!??:confused:

G'day ;)

company_spy
24th Jul 2007, 04:11
As far as I am aware an inoperative APU does not prevent ETOPS operations it only limits the range which you can fly, ie 180 min back to 120 min etc(Jetstar is probably only on 120 min so it would be back to 60min). Also as the APU is normally only operated on the ground what systems was the L/H engine compensting for. Whilst not up to speed with Airbus generally the 2 engines share the load, the APU would only be operated in flight if one of the engines lost a generator for example. Unfortunately their is not enough information to question whether they should have continued or not however the safest bet is to do what they did and land at the closest suitable airport.

crow17
24th Jul 2007, 04:50
Here is a link that may clear up a few questions.Cheershttp://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=285067

happy hippy
24th Jul 2007, 05:47
Is this not QF groups second engine out in 2 weeks?
I thought I had heard about 1 up in WA last week as well?

Torquelink
24th Jul 2007, 08:15
"He said the number one engine shut down due to a fuel-injection issue, but the exact cause was not yet known"

I knew they should never have got rid of carburettors!

:)

Lynx206
24th Jul 2007, 08:38
A well-connected insider suggested that the thronomister decoupled from the sphetzner valve!

jshg
24th Jul 2007, 08:54
There's an Airbus Notice out on 330/340 APUs at the moment. We are supposed to avoid using them on the ground if GPU is available, so that is more likely to be what was going on.

max autobrakes
24th Jul 2007, 09:04
Why, are they all maintained in Singapore are they?:}