Relocating or new to Darwin?

[Gorillaz]

Anyone who is currently new to Darwin, or who is about to relocate there for flying.. please PM me.

[nohumbug]

would somebody plz roll out the bagot community locator gag...just for old times sake ???i have:Ent seen it in ages!!!

[Bagot_Community_Locator]

I suggest you try the Bagot Community.

It is a small friendly close knit community of people and just the right place for itinerants (people like you).

It is situated right in the middle of suburbia Darwin and close to everything. It is just down the road from the airport and so very convenient for any pilot.

It is actually on the main road half way between the city and the Northern suburbs/Casuarina shopping complex/airport. It has its own bus stop with good transport links to all over Darwin.

I believe it even has its own "community" take away food store, otherwise McDonalds is only a 5 minute walk down the road. There are maybe also a few pay phones on site/on the main road so you can ring up for jobs/be in contact.

For those athletes, the complex even includes tennis/basketball courts with night lighting.

The local women their are also very friendly so you'll never be lonely.

This would be the perfect introduction to the Territory.

Accomodation is fairly cheap, as you can shack up with the locals for maybe a carton or beer otherwise you can just camp out anywhere in the open or in the street like many others freely do.

They have built a large fence around the complex to stop you wandering out on the main road and getting run over after you've had a few drinks too many.

It even has a locator beacon named after it, so you'll be reminded of the good old Bagot Community everytime you fly.

I suggest you give the Bagot Community a try.

[Mr. Hat]

ah the territory...

[Pinky the pilot]

Lived in a house on stilts in Nemarluk Drive back in 1979 and used to hear the sounds of fun and jollity on welfare cheque nights even with the windows closed!!:}:ugh:

Women and Children screaming, smashing glass, men yelling abuse at all in sundry. I'm sure you get the picture.:mad:

Never ever thought that it would be almost thirty years before some attempt would be made to fix the problem. (Wish there was a smilie to signify a weary shake of the head)

[Erin Brockovich]

Yep, brining in the Army and Federal police is a brilliant plan. Should solve everything! :rolleyes:

[tinpis]

Erin
Nothing should be done?

Every female that was murdered in the NT last 12 months was aboriginal

Sydney - The central Australian tourist town of Alice Springs could claim the world record for stabbings, a doctor said on Tuesday.
Chief of surgery at Alice Springs Hospital Jacob Ollapallil said most stab victims were Aboriginal women and almost a third of them were drunk when they were brought in.
"We spend a lot of resources to treat these patients but we are not looking past the surgical department and the emergency department to see what's a cause for these trauma cases," Ollapallil said.
"In all health issues, traumatic injury and death are the most preventable."
Around 2 000 Aborigines live in shacks in Alice Springs, almost all of them relying on welfare.
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=2024&art_id=nw20070724084930423C868206

[Muffinman]

So Erin... enlighten us with your solution. I'm sure that many pilots who have done their time in the bush AND lived in the communities AND evac'ed the results of abuse AND live through the daily chaos are all ears.

[Mr. Hat]

Give them some warning that the money is going to stop then stop it.
Stop the alcohol deliveries to remote communities.
You're right something needs to be done.

[Erin Brockovich]

There is a solution, but the bleeding hearts are not going to like it. My career has been wide and varied so I feel eligible to comment from my first hand experiences.

Mr. Hat is on the right track. Welfare is the problem. It causes dependency on the government; self esteem issues; no purpose for existing day to day; boredom; frustration; hopelessness; alcoholism; violence; abuse etc. If anyone has ever been on the dole then they would understand how lazy you can get. I was on it for 6 months and struggled to get out of bed at lunchtime by the end.

Now the hard part. It would take a generation to change. The children are the key.

Firstly we have to make all citizens of our great country equal. I would suggest calling Aboriginals - ‘Australians of Aboriginal decent’. We all have different backgrounds and heritage, but we are first and foremost Australians. No one wants to see other groups receive special treatment, nor want to receive special treatment themselves.

Next would be to regulate the welfare and eventually cut it off. Some communities were using the kid’s school attendance leveraged against the parent’s access to the clubs. We need to break the cycle where the children only see mum or dad going to a hole in the wall, receiving cash for doing nothing, spending most of it on gabling and alcohol, then fighting throughout the night. No wonder Aboriginal teens are so withdrawn from society. They can see their future is bleak, so what’s the point in living.

The challenge will be society realising that integration is what’s needed. Communities in their current states don’t work. There is no accountability, no real commerce, no individual ownership (which goes against their culture) or pride. No jobs which means no self worth. The days of living off the land are long gone. Consuming KFC and VB under a tree is as close as it gets in some communities.

Need to run but I might continue my thoughts later on. Do you really think the governments bandaid reaction to a problem that they created is the answer?

[Muffinman]

Erin I don't for a moment see what is presently occuring with the cops and army intended to be a SOLUTION - however it seems to me a pretty good START however. I must be living on another planet if the take on their presence is the SOLUTION - let alone be expected to believe it (your quote) "should solve everything").

I was simply curious about your original post being '...1 liner +:rolleyes:... ', - it did'nt leave much to think over and I read it as if you didn't care/disagreed that something has finally commenced.

Where this goes....., well....., I think we are already hearing some of your points already openly debated in the powers to be, the media and around BBQs. I've been following the regular editorial from Noel Pearson in the weekend ozzie - he has been screaming solutions for well over a year;)

[tinpis]

And I sincerely hope that Noel looks after his health
You got a long road ahead of you Noel, yer needs to get a bit lean and mean.:\:ok:

[Muffinman]

Yup I agree tinpis 'specially if his 'three phases of the rescue operation' as descibed in the oz june 23-24 will be seen out;)

[Muffinman]

Geeezuz Gorillaz - sorry mate - what was the question again?;)

[Mr. Hat]

If people give you money why work?...... the result is no sense of purpose, no direction. No satisfaction. Worst thing is "mum dad uncle and aunty and everybody else do it like this so it must be right..."

Its a bad situation and a terrible waste. Something very very drastic needs to take place.

[victor two]

Lets not forget that the CDEP payments (dole payments) in remote communities stops next week as the federal government has finally woken up and killed the program. That means a lot less cash sloshing around those camps which I am thinking will translate into a lot less air travel between the various communities. Alas, all those confiscated key cards with the pin number scratched on it with a piece odf glass that you bush guys are holding will be worth nothing come next week.............

[tinpis]

Lemmeesee...no booze ,no ganja,no kava, no porn DVDS , no KFC charters

The place will be awash with loot

Bet Harvey Norman build stores out there. :hmm:

[CoodaShooda]

Could be on to something there tinnie.

Construction phase provides employment and some skills training in construction work.

Then the community can all get jobs and experience in retail.

All they'd need is a market. :ugh::ugh::O

[Gorillaz]

That's fantastic... my one liner to discreetly advertise something in Darwin has developed into a discussion about Bagot.... here i was thinking that there would be no replies..

[Jamair]

Northern Qld wouldn't be far behind NT for alcohol-induced trauma amonst our indigenous brethren. Noel Pearson has the right idea - kill welfare and put all Australians on the same footing, get rid of the existing 'poor me' handout culture for all ethnic backgrounds.

BTW, according to the definition, I am indigenous too - I was born here. (As were my parents, and theirs, and theirs, and theirs.)

[tinpis]

Even better than Bagot is the little known one mile dam camp.
This gem is a beautiful billabong in the heart of the city near the Daly Street Bridge
Population, couple of hundred of the usual drunks and dogs


http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/news/images/davidg.jpg

[The Voice]

do you remember the infamous Palm Tree 13 address Tinny?

Got any other photos' .. must be plenty doing the rounds somewhere!

[tinpis]

Voice does yer recognise the world famus actor in the photty?
Dont know Palm Tree 13 ? Lemmeeguess..was it the Gardens golf course ? Mindil Beach? Vesteys? Lameroo?

[The Voice]

be not so young David G I'm guessing .. had the (ahem) 'pleasure' of meeting him once ..

Palm Tree 13 - was on the 'Splanade - a hammock strung between two palms, home to a 'lighter coloured' long-grasser - he was a real character when he was a not full drunk! (otherwise he was a real pig of a man) ..

[Di_Vosh]

Check your PM's

[tinpis]

Any pahlits in this little fambly get to? :}


Cops quell angry mob

04Aug07

FIVE police officers faced an angry mob of around 100 people last night, when a domestic dispute snowballed into a war between two families.

Police were called to a house in Bagot Community, Ludmilla, around 6.30pm.

"Basically it was a domestic dispute, a female cracked a male over the head and then the male called his family in,'' a police spokesman said.

"Nulla nullas were produced, but the offenders disappeared once the police arrived.''

"A number of officers suffered minor cuts and bruises while separating the warring parties, however there were no serious injuries.'' a police spokesman said.

A warrant check led to the arrest of a man, 28, from Elcho Island, who was wanted for damage to property.

The dispute simmered down after the police attended, and did not spill outside the perimeter of Bagot Community.

However, nearby residents remained watchful after the police departed.

"There were about 80 people all shouting and screaming, it was such a horrendous racket,'' said one local resident, who did not wish to be identified.

"There's always problems, always noise at this particular house,'' the resident said.

We've spoken to the police and to politicians but they all tell us there's nothing we can do. It's been like this for 26 years.''

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2007/08/04/1691_ntnews.html

[OpsNormal]

And that is the violent side of the issues that plague aboriginal communities that the bleeding hearts in southern capital cities neither see, hear or even acknowledge.

To the locals who live around Dick Ward Drv in the vicinity of Bagot, that sort of behaviour is probably best described as "night time".

I'll be honest, I've never (and will never) vote for John Howard, however applaud his grabbing the bull by the horns and doing something. What remains to be seen is just how serious his resolve actually is.....

[tinpis]

edited cos it would make yer crook

[nohumbug]

on a lighter note 10th Caz crawl tonight at sunset , nightcliff jetty . could be the last ...so be there!!!

[morno]

on a lighter note 10th Caz crawl tonight at sunset , nightcliff jetty . could be the last ...so be there!!!

What??!!! :eek::eek::eek::{:{:{

No more Caz Crawls?? Why, how??

I only had the chance to do the one, but would almost crawl over broken glass to go and do another one. It was the only drinking exercise that I can remember....... ahh hold on, I can't. Well it was good fun, :O.

morno

[tinpis]

No more Caz Crawls?? Why, how??

May have something to do with the restrictions on drinking alcohol in public places due the the .....er....rock ape behaviour of a few.