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ABX
27th Jun 2007, 12:24
Hello All,

My ground school is progressing nicely, I am learning heaps and loving every minute.:}

A question though, can anyone please give me a definition and an explanation of wind shear, as it applies to a light aircraft (if there is any difference).:8

As usual all welcome, the more the merrier.:ok:

Cheers,

ABX

Capt Fathom
27th Jun 2007, 12:50
Google is your friend!

Bedlamair
27th Jun 2007, 13:14
Windshear is defined as a sudden change of wind direction or speed. From a pilots point of view you could add "that causes an unexpected change in airspeed or vertical speed". Any more than this is delving into more than just a definition.

ABX
27th Jun 2007, 13:46
Hi Capt Fathom thanks for the tip, I also have a few friends here at Proon.:E:}

Bedlamair thanks mate, that is pretty close to what I have heard before.:ok:

Cheers,

ABX

Tarq57
28th Jun 2007, 01:07
Not too hot on the actual definitions etc, but here's a general description.Windshear most usually manifests as a change of wind velocity as altitude changes. The wind speed is usually stronger at altitude than close to the surface. The direction usually backs about 20 degrees at altitude compared with the surface, also, but this is extremely variable and depends on local effects (terrain) and the weather pattern/air stability on the day. The general descriptor of this is wind gradient, where the windpeed increases steadily and somewhat predictably with altitude. Shear is the more sudden relative.
Normally windshear is most significant on approach, where the aircraft is close to minimum speed, and as it descends enters an area of less headwind. Because the aircraft has inertia, this translates to a decrease in airspeed. If severe enough the aircraft may not be able to recover from the situation (Talking pretty darned severe, here, but it has caused accidents.)
The usual procedure where windshear on approach is reported or expected, is to carry a bit more airspeed. The usual procedure when severe windshear is encountered is to raise the nose and apply power, lots of power, as required. Naturally the nose shouldn't be raised so much the aircraft risks stalling, it's both intuitive and counter intuitive to do this. Intuitive (for the less experienced) because the aircraft is sinking below the normal profile; counterintuitive because it's unnatural to raise the nose if the airspeed is dropping. I believe it's been recommended as a windshear procedure, because it slows the descent rate initially, which is important, as the windshear is quite likely to get worse the faster altitude changes.
It affects all aircraft. Because light aircraft have less inertia, usually a lower descent rate on approach, and are less often landing on runways that are close to the minimum length than large airliners, it's usually not so critical. But definitely can be.
All that said, windshear can occur at any altitude, in any flight condition, given the right (wrong) met conditions. Often associated with jetstreams. Almost always occurs near/in thunderstorms.

ABX
12th Jul 2007, 13:16
Thanks mark.

Question to all:

What is the best way to reduce the dangers posed by windshear when flying GA aircraft?

BackPacker
12th Jul 2007, 14:14
Well, I guess you first need to know when there's a reasonable chance of windsheer:
- Near/under TCU/CB/TS
- When passing through an inversion layer or cloud layer
- When a pilot or met report says so

If there is a chance of windsheer, carry some additional speed and if you encounter a stronger than expected windsheer, don't hesitate but put full power on immediately. You can always go around.

ABX
13th Jul 2007, 07:37
Thanks BP.

Genuine question:

Is it windshear or windsheer?

Tarq57
13th Jul 2007, 08:06
Windshear. (Shearing action-two air masses, or parts of one air mass, shearing against each other.)
Not to be confused with Windsheer. (Slightly provocative, see-through air.) or
Windshare (the malodorous gift that no one really wants to share.)

ABX
13th Jul 2007, 08:29
:}LOL - mark, nearly had a coffee vs. keyboard moment there!:ok:

Mark 1
13th Jul 2007, 09:19
I'd add to backpacker's reply. Beware coastal airfields where the prevailing wind is off-shore, but the sea-breeze is producing an on-shore wind at ground level.
Often gives a shear layer at low altitude which is more of a concern on departure than approach, as the headwind turns to a tailwind with consequent loss of IAS. On approach you may suddenly become hot due to the reverse effect.
Also generally more noticeable at night due to reduced vertical motion and mixing (a 30-40knot wind at 1000' might turn to 5-10 knots at GL), though the shear is likely to be more progressive and easily handled.

BackPacker
13th Jul 2007, 11:29
shear vs. sheer. I guess it all depends on whether you are from the UK or the US, whether you're a native English speaker or English is your second language, whether it's late at night or not, whether your typing skills are up to scratch or impaired by alcohol intake etc.

In any case, I do apologize to US English speakers, and apologise to English English speakers for my mistake.

Although my dictionary gives a second definition for "sheer" as well - to swerve from a course. So arguably a wind shift could also be called a windsheer instead of a windshear.

ABX
13th Jul 2007, 13:30
Hi BackPacker,

Thanks for the tip regarding the shear/sheer spelling, I will be answering exam questions for my BAK soon and I wanted to get the spelling right.:8

I see that you're in Amsterdam, I was there in the summer of 95 and found it - and the rest of Holland - to be very beautiful at that time of year.:ok:

Cheers,

ABX

ABX
22nd Jul 2007, 13:46
Can someone explain the difference between windshear and turbulence please?

Mad (Flt) Scientist
22nd Jul 2007, 15:44
Turbulence is essentially a random phenomenom.

Windshear is, at it's simplest, two layers of air moving at different speeds, hence with a "shear" or tearing layer between them. It can also be a local up or downdraft, and associated in/outflow. Regardless, it's a pseudo-stable condition - if there was a downdraft of strength X 30 seconds ago, it's probably still there, and of similar magnitude.

In practice, one rarely sees windshear without some level of turbulence; the academic windshears used for training and system design therefore comprise both a pure shear model and a turbulence model.

AC120-41 (http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/ce77d147c0422f84862569de005bd89b/$FILE/AC120-41.pdf) contains some discussion of the modelling approach used.

411A
23rd Jul 2007, 01:13
The worst windshear I have experienced was on approach to GQNN, a couple of years ago.
The First officer had made rather a mess of the first hand flown ILS approach, and was 'done in' so he said.
Lockheed to the rescue.
Couple it all up for an automatic approach/land and with calm wind reported at the surface, the FMS showed a crosswind of fifty knots at 400 agl.
Drift angle, 12 degrees.
The 'ole TriStar comes sliding down the glidepath at Ref+40, and at 5 feet radio height, the speed was right at Vref.

Thirty five year old technology at its best.



Ahhh, Lockheed!:E

Tight Slot
24th Jul 2007, 00:52
Hmmm, a 40 knt loss from 400ft? Either god was on your side or those 3 lovely engines were at idle on touch down...?

ABX
31st Jul 2007, 08:08
Thank you very much to all.:ok:

411A
31st Jul 2007, 14:05
...or those 3 lovely engines were at idle on touch down...?

Actually, nicely spooled-up.
The 'ole Roller is a fine engine, especially when the IAS drops like a rock, and you need the fast acceleration.
The Lockheed autothrottle/autopilot systems work well in adverse situations...just as intended.

Tight Slot
4th Aug 2007, 21:11
I stand (sit really with a glass of red) corrected. My old 75 had Rb211's and jolly good they were too. Tar 411

B Fraser
6th Aug 2007, 15:51
Remember that windshear can be a change in velocity and direction in both the vertical and horizontal sense.

Happy Landings