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Pengineer
14th Dec 2001, 15:50
From today's Irish Independant.
http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/stories.php3?ca=9&si=656396&issue_id=6550

I'm posting this twice, if the Guv would kindly 'stick his oar' in the other post, him and his fan club can steer the thread in whatever twisted direction they like. Hopefully this thread can run in an adult like direction.

Sir Kitt Braker
14th Dec 2001, 16:09
So what was the result- job back, cash, or fired?

dv8
14th Dec 2001, 16:23
and what was for lunch?
Lengthy negotiations between the sides resulted in a settlement shortly before lunchtime.

sgt.culpepper
14th Dec 2001, 20:10
Yes, I wonder why MoL settled this action on the steps of the court, it's most unlike him to give in like that.Could it be that he wished to avoid the washing of some dirty linen in public,eg, crew rostering ,crew flying hours,etc etc.Indeed running the risk of exposing the whole regime to public scrutiny ?

Seloco
14th Dec 2001, 21:31
Ryanair claimed that seating Capt Duffy, and other crew members, in the cabin could only have been managed by turning away fare-paying passengers.


So, this begs the question as to just how many jump seats there are on a 737; from the above one must assume at least 3!

Aircraft_Nut9
14th Dec 2001, 21:50
The arithmetic goes something like this:

Four jump seats in the Cabin. One free regular seat in the Cabin (129 of 130 seats occupied). Three of the Cabin jump seats occupied by attendants for the outbound flight. The unoccupied Cabin jump seat is at the rear of the cabin.

Two jump seats in the cockpit (B737-200).

Positioning crew consists of Captain + First/Officer + three attendants making a total of Five people.

There are four unoccupied seats, two jump seats in the cockpit, one jump seat in the Cabin and one regular seat in the Cabin.

Five into four does not go.

:confused:

Stand by your man
15th Dec 2001, 01:38
For those who care.....

The confidential settlement is that Martin got a whopping great cash award plus a reference signed by O'Leary himself which confirms that he carried out his duties to the highest professional standards.


Much as I'd dearly love to see to see the unsavoury aspects of the case aired in public (eg it happened a week after Martin complained to the IAA about FR's interpretation of the 900 hour limit) I think he was right to settle and move on. Much talk of FR witnesses being drilled on their stories.......

crossfeedclosed
17th Dec 2001, 23:40
Any truth in the story that he got £200,000? Seems unlike Ryanair unless O'Leary didn't want some unsavory information to come out in the evidence. What's this about the IAA and 900 hrs?

LAVDUMPER
18th Dec 2001, 02:05
Nice cash award, but will he be able to find another flying job soon if he does not continue to fly with Ryanair?

Could he get on with Easy or GO? What are his prospects after spending his wad of cash?

Any news on where he will go next?


Best of luck to him - and O'Leary (a Kelleher wannabe) can kiss off!!!!!! I love to see jackasses like him get what they deserve!

pager
18th Dec 2001, 20:41
Nobody wins in cases like this - he probably figured rightly on diminishing employment prospects if the case went ahead and all the facts were aired warts and all - unfortunately only the wigs win with fat fees

On the settlement, the word I've heard is that he got 5 months pay.

fionan
19th Dec 2001, 02:39
Rumour has it Fr considered airborne time only for calculation of duty limits. Hence 900 hours Fr time was different to 900 hours for everyone else. ;) ;) ;)

[ 18 December 2001: Message edited by: westman ]

full monkey
22nd Dec 2001, 02:29
this is not true, where does stuff like this come from? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

maxalt
22nd Dec 2001, 11:57
Full Monkey it bloody well is true. They tried it back in 1999/2000 and the IAA (co-operative as ever) agreed with them, until IALPA jumped on it and aleted the JAA. The IAA then changed their minds.
By the way, the IAA failed their JAR compliance audit last month. What heroes.

Self Loading Freight
22nd Dec 2001, 15:10
This is the selfsame IAA which operates a ban on 'any battery or laser operated equipment' by passengers during flight -- the sort of gallumphing statement you do not want to hear from an organisation charged with monitoring the technical safety of the bits keeping you aloft.

I wonder what sort of laser equipment they think we have that doesn't run on batteries -- some sort of Dr No stylee death ray?

R (who always checks his white Persian cat as handluggage)