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dogpaddy
15th Jun 2007, 14:55
I have a UK JAA PPL(H) with Enstrom and 269C type-ratings which are coming up for renewal in September. I have a couple of questions that hopefully someone can help me with:

i) My type-ratings are valid for only one year, is that normal for helicopter type-ratings? I believe that fixed-wing are valid for two years, why the difference?

ii) Can I get them revalidated in any JAA state? I heard that there were some exceptions, for example Germany (which is naturally my first choice!), but that information is a couple of years old. Anything changed in the mean-time?

Thanks,

dp

Aesir
15th Jun 2007, 15:46
Yes it is normal that helicopter type ratings are only valid one year even if it is only for PPL use.

Fixed wing guys have class ratings like SEP (Single engine piston) and for PPL the class rating is valid 2 years and they need to fly 12 hrs the last 12 months.

If I remember correctly you only need to renew you type rating on one piston helicopter and if you have flown the other type at least 2 hrs within the validation period then that renews your LPC on that to. You need to ask your examiner or licensing authority about that!

Bladecrack
15th Jun 2007, 16:05
From LASORS (UK)
"Revalidation of a helicopter type rating requires a proficiency check in the relevant type of helicopter within the 3 months immediately preceeding the expiry date of the rating, and at least 2 hours (including the proficiency check) as pilot of the relevant helicopter within the validity period of the rating"
also;
For single-engine piston helicopters as listed below (Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 2.245(b)(3) refers), an applicant shall complete at least the proficiency check in accordance with JAR-FCL 2.245(b)(1) on one of the applicable types held provided that the applicant has fulfilled at least 2 hours pilot-in-command flight time on the other type(s) during the validity period which that revalidation proficiency check shall carry across. The type ratings for this purpose are:-
Bell 47, Brantley B2, Hughes 269, Enstrom ENF28 and Hiller UH12
Regards,
BC.

dogpaddy
15th Jun 2007, 16:19
Thanks for the information Aesir and BC.

Any enlightenment about revalidations in other JAA states?

Thanks,

dp

Heli-Ice
15th Jun 2007, 16:44
dogpaddy

Check this with your CAA first.

Most things can be sorted out.

Aesir
15th Jun 2007, 17:57
Revalidation are normally not a problem to do in other JAA member states. But the UK-CAA seems to work in mysterious ways sometimes so you better check with them to be sure.

I am myself a IS/JAA-FE and routinely do LPC rides on other nationality´s and at least Scandinavian authorities as well as Irish CAA accept that.

If you want to get H-300 proficiency check in Iceland I´ll be happy to help out but it´s probably not going to be much cheaper than in UK.

i) My type-ratings are valid for only one year, is that normal for helicopter type-ratings? I believe that fixed-wing are valid for two years, why the difference?


The difference! My guess is because helicopters are more complex! I believe that F/W have to revaildate IR every year.

dogpaddy
16th Jun 2007, 09:48
Thanks again for the information. I was hoping that i wouldn't have to get in touch with the CAA but I guess it has to be done.

Thanks,

dp