CRC
21st May 2007, 15:33
What's the appropriate pilot RTF in the following circumstance?
Scenario:
Speaking to a non-radar, IFR , approach ATSU.
Aircraft is inbound for an instrument approach and the inbound track is such that on reaching the terminal/approach navaid/holding-fix a 'reversal' (parallel or off-set entry to the hold procedure) manoeuvre is required to return back over the navaid to either enter the hold or connect with the localizer and continue 'straight-in'.
Obviously there are two transmissions required. The first when first over the navaid to inform ATC of that and that the aircraft is manoeuvring /turning back, the second that the aircraft has completed the manoeuvre, is back over the navaid and is either established in the hold (turning outbound), or "beacon inbound" (if having been cleared for the instrument approach.
I have had the following suggested to me:-
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), COMMENCING REVERSAL TURN"; or,
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), TURNING OUTBOUND"; or,
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), COMMENCING ENTRY PROCEDURE"
then subsequently - having completed the manoeuvre and back over the navaid:-
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), BEACON INBOUND"; or,
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), ESTABLISHED IN THE HOLD (plus perhaps) TURNING OUTBOUND"
I would appreciate any reference to any document in which I can find such RTF modelled as I am not aware of any.
Thanking folk in adavance, etc.......
Scenario:
Speaking to a non-radar, IFR , approach ATSU.
Aircraft is inbound for an instrument approach and the inbound track is such that on reaching the terminal/approach navaid/holding-fix a 'reversal' (parallel or off-set entry to the hold procedure) manoeuvre is required to return back over the navaid to either enter the hold or connect with the localizer and continue 'straight-in'.
Obviously there are two transmissions required. The first when first over the navaid to inform ATC of that and that the aircraft is manoeuvring /turning back, the second that the aircraft has completed the manoeuvre, is back over the navaid and is either established in the hold (turning outbound), or "beacon inbound" (if having been cleared for the instrument approach.
I have had the following suggested to me:-
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), COMMENCING REVERSAL TURN"; or,
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), TURNING OUTBOUND"; or,
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), COMMENCING ENTRY PROCEDURE"
then subsequently - having completed the manoeuvre and back over the navaid:-
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), BEACON INBOUND"; or,
"(name of navaid) TIME (xx), ESTABLISHED IN THE HOLD (plus perhaps) TURNING OUTBOUND"
I would appreciate any reference to any document in which I can find such RTF modelled as I am not aware of any.
Thanking folk in adavance, etc.......