Service Police and Civil Police

[interpretrix]

Many in these forums dislike the service police just as a civilian dislikes the civil police.

Some critisism may be warrranted but most is certainly not.

The Corps of Royal Military Police undertake the longest service police course if the Common Military Sylabus(Recruits) is taken inton consideration and are frequently found in the front line in close proximity to the Infantry.

L H H L H H

L/Cpl Cpl Sgt S/Sgt WO2 WO1

The Royal Air Force Police undertake the next longest course with the 6 week Recruit course also included. They also undertake counter-intelligence duties that are the responsibility of the Intelligence Corps in the Regular Army. Also they undertake customs and immigration duties to act on behalf of those agencies. This makes the RAF Police a more varied environment than their RMP equivelents, Even though promotion is usually slower.

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A/Cpl Cpl Sgt Flt Sgt WO

The Corps of Royal Marines Police Troop, which is more company sized than troop sized, performs the same duties as the RMP but on a smaller scale. It also shares responsibility for the Royal Navy Policing environment.

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L/Cpl Cpl Sgt C/Sgt WO2 WO1

The Royal Navy Regulating Specialism undertake the shortest of the police courses but also have to qualify with additional training for certain shipboard appointments in addition to the usual service police specialisms. Like the RM police troop there is no direct entry from civvy street. The perform duties such as Fisheries Protection Officer amongst others on board ship. All officer appointments are commissioned from the senior rates.

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L/Reg PO Reg MAA WO Reg

It can be seen that the Pay varies in the different service police organisations, rank on rank.

Civilian Police earn far more overal than their service police counterparts. Chief Constables pay ranges from £105.000 for the lowest populated force areas to over £240.000 plus bonuses for the Commissioner of Police for the metropolis. Far more than the Chief Of Defence Staff earns and he commands 12 times as many personnel. Deputy chief constables earn two thirds of a Chief Constable. Assistant Chief Constables/Commanders earn just over £90.000.

All Civil Police are actually officers there is no other rank structure.

There exists a direct rank comparison between civil service grades, military officers and police officers, though the salaries vary substantially by as much as £12.000 in some instances.

Officer 1 . midshipman, second lieutenant, pilot officer
equate to a probationer constable in the Police. Lieutenant(army), sub lieutenant(RN), flying officer (RAF). equate to a constable in the Police. Police Constables earn much more.

Officer 2. lieutenant (RN), Captain (army), flight lieutenant (RAF) equate to a police sergeant. Police sergeants earn much more.

Officer 3. Lieutenant-commander (RN), major (army), squadron leader (RAF) equate to a Police inspector. Military officers earn much more than a police inspector.

Officer 4. commander(RN), lieutenant colonel(army), wing commander (RAF) equate to a police chief inspector. Military officers earn much more than a police chief inspector.

Officer 5. captain (RN), Colonel (army), group captain (RAF) equate to a police superintendent and also police chief superintendent. Military officers earn more than police superintendents and chief superintendents.

Officer 6. commadore (RN), brigadier (army), air commadore (RAF) equate to police assistant chief constables and police deputy chief constables. Military officers earn about the same as police assistant chief constables but by far much less than the majority of police deputy chief constables, most of whom earn more than officer 8 in the armed forces.

Officer 7. rear admiral (RN), major general (army), air vice marshal (RAF) equate to a chief constable, in particular the MOD Police. His salary is set at a different level than other civilian police chief constables but is higher than military officers of equivelent rank.

Officer 8. There is no official equivelent but broadly speaking they roughly equate to a chief constable of a large provincial police force though those chief constables earn more than 4 star officers in general. and to the metropolitan police deputy commissioner.

Officer 9. There is no official equivelent but broadly speaking they roughly equate to the police rank shown below under officer 8.

Officer 10. Chief of Defence Staff. There is no official equivelent but broadly speaking they equate roughly to the Commissioner of the metropolis. Though that police officer earns several tens of thousand pounds sterling more than the CDS.

The government prizes police officers more highly than servicemen because servicemen need permission to kill civilians in most cases were police officers dont and because the police have draconian powers wereas the servicemen dont.

I have often wondered how say a lieutenant in the french police national or gendarmerie national or its italian,spanish and portugese equivelents would react to working alongside constables who are officially there equivelents according to NATO and the british government, when their own equivelents are called gardiens or gendarmes and occupy a rank 5 below that of lieutenant.

[Ivan Rogov]

Sorry can't see any connection to Mil Aircrew/Flying etc.

Unless you think "pigs might fly" .........................
OK I know the drill, hat, coat, door! :suspect:

[The Helpful Stacker]

The RAF Police may have the have the second longest service police training course but its still naff all compared to how long technicians and aircrew spend in initial training. In fact when I went through Supply training many years ago the Police training was actually shorter than even ours.

Yes RAF Police can be sent to do many 'top up' courses during their career but so do all other trades in the RAF.

As for comparing RAF Police pay to civil police pay thats a complete non-starter. How many RAF Police regularly deal with RTI's, murders and rape cases?

As 'Ivan Rogov', what is the Mil aircrew/flying implications of your post?

[Pontius Navigator]

Absolutely amazing post with lots of assertions and not a single proven fact.

Now do us a favour and :mad: off.

[The Swinging Monkey]

interpretrix
have you been on the pi$$ or what?
I have absolutely no idea what your point is, nor do I care frankly.
I think you should take a bit more water with it next time, and as PN says, bu££er off.

[samuraimatt]

What on earth is that font he used?

[Chris Kebab]

Could it be stated that the RAF Police are:

"backroom boys and girls without whom nothing would leave the ground"?

Hmmm thought not...

[samuraimatt]

http://www.rafpa.com/Ambush.jpg (http://www.rafpa.com/Ambush.jpg)

[Chris Kebab]

..that would be an extremely funny cartoon....

....if it wasn't true.

[Pontius Navigator]

Samuraimatt, two sensible posts in sequence :) trumped by interpretollix perhaps.

[BluntedAtBirth]

Interpretix, your 'facts' are very dubious. Equating UK police ranks directly to military commissioned ranks, starting off at OF1 = Constable, just because they are 'officers' is very strange. Even using a simplistic approach, based on language alone, is flawed; a lance corporal is an 'officer', all be it a non-commissioned officer, and coppers are warrented not commissioned, hence would equate to only WO2 & WO 1. Anyway, I thought they were all constables in the eyes of the law, hence coppers have senior officers but no superior officer and a probationer can arrest a chief constable.

Leaving aside the fact that the jobs and career structures are very different, if you are looking for equivalency you might want to try a straight forward comparison of rank badges. This itself is a highly dubious approach at lower and medium rank levels, given that all coppers start off as constables, but by the time you get to the more senior ranks it is more valid. A chief superintendant running a division would have several hundered constables answering to him/her, not too different from a cdr/lt col/wg cdr in command.

What exactly was your point anyway - that a baby 'scuffer' should be a pilot officer? What rank would the dog be? :)

[Union Jack]

Apart from completely agreeing with others about the underlying questionable relevance of your post, you are away off beam with your "equivalent" ranks - by at least two ranks in the Services' favour. Just because very senior British civilian police officers wear similar rank badges (so do British ambulance service "officers" - enough said ....) to general officers doesn't mean they are anywhere near truly equivalent either in rank or responsibility - and one should never fall into the trap of equating what people are paid with what they actually earn!

Jack

PS Noting you apparently come from VA, I hope you will not be offended if I say how often I have been amused to see how even small town chiefs of police in the USA go around wearing four stars on the collars of their shirts - and on their shoulderboards at the same time! Please tell us what this signifies? On second thoughts, please don't! We know.

PPS Omigod! I'm starting to get like Rainboe ...

[samuraimatt]

Of course we know what that signifies. They are able to make the fries but not serve them.

[MightyGem]

What on earth is that font he used?

Century Gothic. :uhoh:

[DON T]

Bet the dog has a longer training course.

[rmac]

Love the cartoon.

RAFP on 814 (Nuclear protection duties) in Bruggen and Laarbruch in the mid-eighties used to wear DPM and webbing with blue shirts, ties and white hats. A little confused identity at the time perhaps :ugh:

I understand though that plans are afoot for a single joint police force (Dutch style), which will have equal opportunities to get shot at in the sand pit, and likely to have a few beer bellies quivering at the thought at the police post at RAF Back-of-Beyond.

Of course such an organisation would be RMP dominated (being bigger), and if you think that the RAFP can be obtuse and difficult sonofabitches, be prepared to be breathalised on your early morning walk to the jet after a long night at the mess bar, or worse.

Better the devil you know and all that..........................

There I knew it was possible to find aviation relevance in this thread ;)

[cornish-stormrider]

Are there enough brains on the chain to run a unified force??

How will we explain the relevance of flight safety to some RMP who thinks his word is law........I can see this one ending in a big Plod vs Engine intake/exhaust accident.

[gijoe]

'Of course such an organisation would be RMP dominated (being bigger), and if you think that the RAFP can be obtuse and difficult sonofabitches, be prepared to be breathalised on your early morning walk to the jet after a long night at the mess bar, or worse. '

What are you saying here then?

Flight Safety not needed?
BTT doesn't apply to me?

[The Burning Bush]

Many in these forums dislike the service police

Yes, and your need to post this drivel is a good indicator of why that might be.:rolleyes:

[Wader2]

The Burning Bush, she has a need? Gawd, I wonder what other needs she has if this is anything to go by. :)

[Gnd]

What a Kn0b!!! They are all petty and crybabies - staish staish he didn't grovel to me!! - Must be anyway to live in Virginia!!

[Wader2]

I think she is angling for a pay rise as she posted much the same, albeit more concise, message in June last year on the RAFP thread immediately before it closed.

Two posts in 11 months, clearly a prolific protestrix.

[interpretrix]

Excuse me but pigs do fly! On the continent and in america they train serving police officers and not civilian?ex military pilots to fly their helicopters and fixed wing aircraft>

[C130 Techie]

Thanks Interpretrix!

Not only am I wasting my life languishing in a distant South Atlantic outpost.

I now find myself reading pointless drivel as well:rolleyes:

[interpretrix]

:ugh: Not it is not dubious> The police ranks equate to both civil service and armed forces commissioned officer ranks> I got the information direcly from a published MOD document>Even a mere Administrative Officer in the Civil service equates to a police officer and the second lieutenant?lieutenant ranks> Sorry this goddamn thing wont let me put in punctuation> All the ranks quoted and their service equivelents come from official MOD documents> I have not made them up>

[interpretrix]

:ugh: It is not drivel> The post is far more informative than the majority of posts on this website> Some of you may seek a career with MODPLOD when you finish your RAF endenured servitude lol>

Your always taking the micky out of the RAF Police> They do a vital job as do all in the RAF> Most ground trades in the RAF are none combatant and you may as well be civvies in uniform> They along with the RAF REgiment

[Once A Brat]

I normally just reside in the background and never feel the urge to post but the drivel and tosh that Interpretrix has just posted means that I just have to bite!!

Whilst working in and around the SD814 world, a MOD Plod constable was equivalent to a troop, a Sgt was exactly that, an Inspector was a JO and a Chief Insp a Sqn Ldr. It got a bit blurred after that, true (home office) police ranks seemed to follow suit, HOWEVER, the big difference being that the police seemed to put the most qualified and most appropriate person into the job and if that was a PC then so be it.

As for the CS - Whilst at that secret logistics base in cambs when senior CS grades tried to remonstrate that "I'm equivalent to a Sqn Ldr/Wg Cdr/ Gp Capt......" then my usual response was to remind them not confuse having a grade with having a rank!!!!! :ugh:

That said Interpretrix is right in that Service Policemen are required as it means that I don't have to do their job! As for a career with MODPlod, following my experiences alluded to above, MODPlod the MOD's version of Keystone Kops - neither one thing or the other! If you want to be a copper then join a home office force but if you want to be a MP then join RMP/RAFP etc.

Bite over..I shall now retire to the background, to hopefully continue enjoying PP.

[C130 Techie]

Sorry to feed the troll but

Most ground trades in the RAF are none combatant and you may as well be civvies in uniform

What utter cr@p. You clearly have absolutely no idea what you are talking about!

Some of you may seek a career with MODPLOD when you finish your RAF endenured servitude

Yeh Right!

[samuraimatt]

Why on earth would you want to join the modpigs? Well at least they do gate guard.
Anybody got any more pigswill for this person?

[interpretrix]

:ugh: Excuse me> The rank equivelent information came from a MOD published document in the public domain> I did not make it up> GOT THAT GORMLESS?

[samuraimatt]

What's with the >>>>>>> thing's?

[Doptrack]

Looks like complete incompetence. > is above the . (Full stop) on most keyboards - Maybe not in Virginia

Coat, leave - I know the drill

[interpretrix]

:ugh: Listen up dumkoffs! I will say this only once. The information concerning the rank equivelents came from a Ministry of Defence information document in the public domain. I have not made them up. Why dont you try to look for it on the internet or make inquiries with MOD Police and verify the information?

The lenth of a trade course will very according to what the civil servants and air rank brass hats decide is necessary for any given specialism. Some are longer others shorter. The course lenth does not have anything to do with a persons intellect or test score in the recruiting office.

The RAF Police have a wider range of more interesting and intelectually stimulating career paths than do most other trades. In the early acting corporal years they will be given the more mundane provost duties to cut their teeth on. Some of the adolesents may still be immature and allow the acting rank and provost role to go to their heads but they also have standing orders to perform certain duties even though such duties may annoy and frustrate those in other trades of all ranks. Many RAF Police NCOs may loathe doing such duties as you loathe them doing so.

Unlike the army and most of the Royal Navy. The vast majority of RAF personnel of all ranks are little more than civilians in uniform subject to military discipline. They will rarely if ever see action. Only the RAF Regiment, RAF Police, certain special forces trained Aircrew have any real significant combat training. If your air base was attacked most of you would be crapping yourselves silly whilst hiding in some safe bunker. That is not your fault it is what the ministry of defence and HM Government have decreed a largly none combattant air force personnel who are little more than civilians in uniform. Every trade as its usfulness within the RAF and all are essential for its operational capability.

My post appeares to have somehow entered this forum section rarther than the intended one that was originally clicked onto. It is informative though not well recieved. Nonetheless it is far better than the majority of pointless and mindless bloggs that appear to be posted here in answer to other people. Grow up and shut up. Accept people have diverse opinions. Constructive critisism is always welcome but not mindless prejudicial comments. By the way, contrary to some peoples belief. I am not female.

I am British but a naturalised American. I am also a senior police officer with the henrico county division of police.

[samuraimatt]

Hahahahahaha now listen interprix or something like that before this thread gets closed down I would just like to ask if there a gibberish translator in the house?
We can't make head nor nail of that uber-babble you have flung onto the screen during your latest spasmodic seizure. Just as the strength of a solitary brick will not save a poorly built structure, your neat text does not redeem your craven incoherent words.
The Anti-Moron™ software on my PC went crazy when I started to read your post. You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder.
Don’t you ever have a point beyond giving your fingers some exercise by dancing them randomly over the keyboard? Trying to get something of value out of your post is like trying to squeeze orange juice out of an apple.
Your message board incompetence is an inspiration to botched lobotomy patients everywhere. I suggest you hone your writing skills before applying borrowed glories as a mere typist.
Here's a tip: no one will ever know that you've had a lobotomy if you wear a wig to hide to the scars; stop posting your drivel on message boards, and learn to control the slobbering.:ok:

Oh a google search of your name brought this up

http://www.britblog.com/directory/profile/004249.html

Note the bit about Perceptions of mental illness and psychiatric patients.

[airborne_artist]

am also a senior police officer with the henrico county division of police.

I love it when someone backs up their paper-thin argument with "I'm a very senior person with a very insignificant organisation, so listen to me when I speak to you. Only I can be right."

Y'all have a nice day now :E

[samuraimatt]

Look I found a picture of you and the chief

http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/images/chiefandmcg.jpg

Not sure about the overcoat though.

[Chris Kebab]

Quote:
Some of you may seek a career with MODPLOD when you finish your RAF endenured servitude


I defy anybody to find a more bizarre quote on this entire web site:bored:

[samuraimatt]

My post appeares to have somehow entered this forum section rarther than the intended one that was originally clicked onto.

How about this one...............:8

[C130 Techie]

By the way, contrary to some peoples belief. I am not female.


No. But you are certainly a big girls blouse

[BluntedAtBirth]

Oh that has set everyone off now, Interpretrix. Before the thread gets closed down after a spiral of invective, can I point out that either this document that you read somewhere on the internet, or your interpretation of it, is, in my opinion, flawed. If you could provide a link to it, we could comment on the assumptions or interpretations drawn and form a common view. The Administrative Officer/Constable/Pilot Officer comparison you found is clearly wrong, as this, now obsolete grade, certainly never a comissioned equivalent (Executive Officer was).

A few other minor points. As to just slagging us off as civies in uniform, I can assure you that many of us have kept our bodily functions under control when airbases have been attacked, and the numbers are, unfortunately, increasing daily. For a US law enforcement officer you have a remarkable knowledge of the views and opinions of the 'scuffers'. Finally, people think you are a female because of the 'trix' suffix to your nickname, as in dominatrix and er... some others. Now I must go before madame sees I have been naughty...

[betty swallox]

I have tears running down my face laughing at this $hite!!!
I did have kittens looking at the dawg photo. Classic.
Methinks the poster is taking him/her/its self a tad seriously. Just magic.
Off to look at the dog photo again.
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See! I can do it too.
>

[Pontius Navigator]

By the way, contrary to some peoples belief. I am not female.


Dominant=male
Dominatrix=female
Interpreter=male

therefore

Interpretrix=female

OTOH, given your curious association with the conventions of written English, and allowing for the frontal lobotomy no doubt associated with your naturalisation, it is perhaps the reason why you are all screwed up.

[NRU74]

Interpretrix
One thing's certain -with such badly written drivel, you'll never make it to the spelling or grammar police.

[BluntedAtBirth]

Ok, so thats me and Pontius off to see Madame for being naughty, but who can think of another 'trix' suffix? Or have we just all been caught out :)

[Pontius Navigator]

navatrix

navaltrix

[BluntedAtBirth]

Ok, Pontius, its just me caught out :)

Here is interpretrix's county police webpage:

http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/index.html

His boss is a Colonel with about 580 police officers and, no doubt, a good number of civilian staff. While a bit small for a Station, given operation, training and administrative responsiblities, perhaps a job for a Group Captain. Equivalency sorted out , jobs a good un.

Mind, those annimal welfare protection officers are well armed, no one would mess about with the RSPCA if they had handguns.

[badgerbaiter]

What a pointless post. You wonder why someone would sit down and write all that - and then get upset when people take a pop at it!!!

May I suggest a new username - Irrelevantrix ??

or... Willdotrix - for a truffle!

[Pontius Navigator]

I forgot,

Aviator and aviatrix, how remiss of me :}

[Maple 01]

I've forgotten the question, if there was one, confirm ACAB over?

[Grabbers]

I wondered WTF the original poster was on about initially, now I know... The improvement of my morale. God Bless the US of A. If it wasn't for the colonials employing monkeys such as this he/she/it may well be in the UK.

[interpretrix]

Strange. I know an Immigration Officer (Executive Officer equivelent) who states he is the equivelent to a Army Captain. Anyway I read the document concerned and have it at my home. Administrative Officer by the way was a grade below Executive Officer and above Administrative Assistant. 5 'O' Levels used to be the minimum education entry level. With 2 'A' levels for Executive Officer. As for the turd who reckons he discovered something on the net about interpretrix, well cretin, there is more than one interpretrix on the WEB.

Now concerning my present job. I could not care less what you believe because you are entitled to believe what you may, however flawed. If you believe me wrong then the MOD document is wrong and the civuil servant assigned to write it may have got his facts wrong.

Henrico County Division of Police

police officer grades 1 to 4, senior police officer, master police officer, sergeant, command sergeant, lieutenant, captain, major, deputy police chief, police chief.

[Grabbers]

I wondered WTF the original poster was on about initially, now I know... The improvement of my morale. God Bless the US of A. If it wasn't for the colonials employing monkeys such as this he/she/it may well be in the UK.

[Bigwings]

there is more than one ibnterpretrix on the WEB

Pray do tell, what is an ibnterpretrix

:rolleyes:

[interpretrix]

Wrong. The top ranks above major or deputy police chief and police chief, they wear the rank insignia of a lieutenant colonel and colonel though. In Virginia few police chiefs have star ranks as in other states. Go to the henrico county personnel website to get the ranks and salary scales.

[ZH875]

Here is interpretrix's county police webpage:
http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/index.html



This page (http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/officer_salary.html) is better, no wonder coppers are weird: "Leather Gear furnished" :O

Makes you wanna serve, (except for the non-negotiable
Starting salary of $36,717)

[interpretrix]

It is so bloody easy for your RAF types to have the micky taken out of you by the other two real fighting services, lol, lol, lol. You sure do rise to the bait and my how bloody high!

[Bigwings]

Tantrum alert

Tin Hats gentlemen

:bored:

[Exrigger]

Found this link to a forum that he appears to have been contributing to:

http://www.forum.uniforminsignia.net/viewtopic.php?t=3611&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

I think that although this thread has nothing to do with Military Aircrew, it is worth leaving it for its amusement value, it certainly made my evening.

The word ibnterpretrix does not appear within any google search, so one has to assume it was a mis-type of something equally amusing.

[interpretrix]

You quoted the trainee salary. A police officer can earn over $80.000 without promotion after 30 years service with 2 yearly step increases. The Police Chief gets over $260.000.

Police pay varies widely in the USA as does the rank structure designations. The maximum salary payable to a police officer in America is $105.000 for an officer with 30 years service. That is one local police force in a california county. The Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department earns nearly $400.000 a year. More than the Chief of Department in the New York Police Department for instance.

Police pay refects the cost of living which in some states is much higher than others. Virginia is not a high cost living state.

[interpretrix]

Exrigger. Verilly I say unto you, there are more interpretrixes in heaven and earth than or dreamed of in your philosophy. I am not the only person on the WEB with that name designation. The link is good though and quite informative, so for that I thank you.

[interpretrix]

Interpretrix means to interpret my online trix you goddam cretin. Its a damn good job you did not select a trade to do with RAF Intelligence, lol,lol,lol. now one of those nice snowdrops would have sussed me out by now. They would never have risen to the bait.

[interpretrix]

In my own experience I have discovered that those who critisise spelling and grammar and punctuation are often the one's who given an english test would score lower than the person they critisised. I dont think much of your pitiful contribution to date. Maybe all you can talk about are engines, nuts, bolts and spanners.

I am British by birth and served for 3 years in the Ist Battalion the Green Howards, now the 2nd Battalion the Yorkshire Regiment. I met and married the Daughter of a now retired USAF Brigadier General and settled in the states. American English and English have many different spellings for the same words.

[difar69]

Verily I tempt you all with a strange combination of Victorian gentleman speak and American slang, I laugh at you all, you underpaid brylcream ladyboy fruit trough woppers, your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.....now go away or I will taunt the 3rd non combat arm of HM forces a 2nd time lol lol lol lol lol lol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This thread is f***ing priceless!! My morale has gone through the roof! Keep up the good work Vercingetorix........:ok: :ok:

[NRU74]

Executrix [a female Executor] and the plural is Executrices

[interpretrix]

You are most definately not underpaid. Your salary is far better from Corporal rank and above than are the salaries of most civilian equivelent jobs. Ok so you dont get overtime and even in the RAF you may occassionally have too stretch your working week from 40 to around 50 hours. Now Matlows and Squaddies they work 60 plus hours most weeks. On active service an Infantry soldier may work 24/7 for 4 days without any sleep. Far too much for you Brylcream boys to handle ( rock apes, snowdrops and coverts exempted because they work for a living). That is why you chose to join the RAF because it was the easy option. You only do 6 to 8 weeks initial training. The navy does 9, the army a minimum of 13, unless infantry when it is 24 to 30 weeks. Royal Marines do 33 weeks.

[interpretrix]

Ahem, old boy! The nick is interpretrix not the one you stated. Still we all make mistakes even you. Now stop that! shaking your hand that way bending your wrist and blowing me a kiss. We know your a ginger beer lover. Indeed the sexual preference of all those who join the RAF is in question. It is often believed thay you dont even know what gender you are.

When I woke up this morning I was feeling a little queer! But now I am feeling rarther gay! Do you fancy a ginger beer down at the brown hatter inn? I hear the faggots they serve for lunch are quite tasty ducky dear.

[Lara crofts pants]

"In my own experience I have discovered that those who critisise spelling and grammar and punctuation are often the one's who given an english test would score lower than the person they critisised."

Nope, just people who can actually spell. Now run along and catch some criminals. Maybe then you can hone your written English skills on the subsequent report sheet.

[johnny99]

Just thought it would be good to see the dog again - should we not move it across to the caption contest - what!

Interpretrix, I had really crap day at the office (non combatant you understand - if you discount fighting JPA); this post put the smile back on my face. By the way, can you still get Brylecream in the US of A?


http://www.co.henrico.va.us/police/images/chiefandmcg.jpg

[interpretrix]

Recruit training varies according to the service. The closer to the action the longer the initial training. Civvies in uniform get 6 to 8 weeks square bashing to learn about marching, rank insignia, air force history, air force law, a little bit about field craft( how to hide from the Flt Sgt and OC flt). What a rifle looks like and how to fire it. How to make a bed, clean the floor and polish boots. and it takes 8 weeks to learn that!

[interpretrix]

Yes you most certainly can still get brylcream in the USA. By the way, My late father was a complete bastard and he was a former RAF Squadron Leader, WW2. He had one cushy number as a Bomber Pilot in Bulewayo, Southern Rodesia. Bloody freemason wangled a cushy posting. He had been training for the goddamn priesthood when war broke out in 1939. He decided flying would be more fun so applied for a Commission. Halli bleeding luya! He should have waited a year and applied to be a RAF Padre. He would sure be closer to heaven in the Air Force. One of his brother officers was the guy who once introduced "all our yesterdays" a 10 year series about life in the UK between 1935 and 1945. Brian Inglis was his name.

[bjcc]

interpretrix
What is the point of this?
I was a UK PC, and to be honest, neither I, nor many of those I worked with gave a toss what the Mil equivilent rank was. It's irrelevent. It matters not.
In relation to incidents where the Mil provide aid to civilain power, then senior Police Officer on scene is in charge, no matter what rank he is, and no matter what rank the senior Mil officer is, and yes, that can mean a PC running the show and an Air MArshall doing what he's told. So your comparison means nothing at all.
Pay. RAFP/RMP/Navy Regs do not do the same job as civvie Police, they don't have the same responsibility, they don't have the same decision making devolved to them. So yes, they are paid less, then again so are Mil pilots, ATCO', Aircraft Engineers and most other trades, when compared to Civilians.
Oh and you quote the Commisioner Of Police of the Metropolis in your pay scales for Police Officers, he isn't a Police Officer, he's a JP.

[interpretrix]

Wrong. He is both a serving police officer and a justice of the peace. But the current occupier is a complete tosser and psudo criminal. The UK is the only so called democracy were a serving police officer can murder an innocent member of the public and then conspire to pervert the course of justice, fabricate evidence and walk away scot free. Never ever in the british police history as a serving police officer who murdered an innocent civilian who posed no threat and was not armed, nor even a criminal, ever stood in the dock. In the states although we discharge our firearms frequently in defence of our own lives and the public, would we ever get away with murder. Under prime minister blair over 8000 new criminal offenses have been added tio the statute books. For instance, it is now a criminal offence in the UK for a person who owns a burglar alarm to nominate another person to switch it off in their absense (fact). In north Wales you have a Chief Constable, whom is former mentor constable called a complete cretin, who diverts more resources to policing traffic than he does to major crime.

[Exrigger]

interpretrix you say your sig is to 'interpret my online trix':

Would this be Trix the tick remover system, Trix the model trains, Trix the cereal (or do you mean you are the silly rabbit from the makers of the cereal) or are you part of Trix v0.9 a QT Blog where it is safe to feed trolls like you.

Your intelligent banter is actually so amusing that your base insults just improve the comedy value of this thread.

[bjcc]

interpretrix
I see, so we were lied to by our instructors at Hendon then were we?
The Commisioner, deputy Commisioner, Assistants Commisoners and Deputy Assistant Commisioners are not Constables, they are JP's. Which is why a Met Officer can be sworn in by them, a non Met Officer has to be sworn in by a local Magistrate.
In this country, in order to be a Police Officer, you need to be a Constable, they are not, end discussion.....
Thanks for your assessment of events 2 years ago. It's been done to death before, there is no evidence to support the claims you made, but why let anything like that stand in the way of a rant.

Now, are you going to answer the question I asked, what is the point, given that no one effected is bothered by the comparisons?

[johnny99]

Me thinks interiprix's true colours are starting to show! Ach well, at least the dog picture was worthy of a re visit.

[interpretrix]

Well that is a compliment indeed from a brylcream boy! I am glad to improve your moral and give you a good laugh. This website is sadly lacking in such bizarre humour. Well that is good old tommy atkins for you.( he says with a crafty half smile).

[Pontius Navigator]

$80000 after 30 years with 2 yearly increments and 11 days leave a year. Wow such largesse.

As for the dear father, he obviously made a mistake and got the son he deserved.

[interpretrix]

14 witness statements of passengers in the carriage. That is enough evidence for me. I suspect your a former Met officer.

[interpretrix]

Your not reading the website properly. up to 40 days leave a year can be obtained plus additional leave for a wide variety of other purposes. Police leave in the states varies widely from force to force. actual leave starts at 15 days, sure lower than in the UK but it rises quickly.

[interpretrix]

Yes your right those 4 ranks are indeed justices of the peace. Are more honestly, justices of inciting the plods to commit crimes against the citizenry under the pretext of keeping the peace.

Your bosses have some slogan, "policing by consent". Well there is no such think as policing by consent. There is only policing by act of parliament.

[bjcc]

interpretrix
Yep, well, we'll not go into my opinons of those that have held those ranks....

As for the City Pol, Really? Interesting, you speak for experience do you? I can.

Now, back to the question I asked. Are you going to answer it?

[betty swallox]

Hey! what happened to the photo of the cop and dog??

Interpre-thingy, I take it you were the hairy one with the long eeeeers?






>>>>>>> >>>> ..

[interpretrix]

I will decline to comment officer other than to say, Not guilty. Now you can take me into a cell and get the relief to beat me up before and after you interview me on tape. But I am staying dumb. lol.

[On_The_Top_Bunk]

From one Rozzer to another take heed from your oppo in the pic!!!!

http://www.asmh37.dsl.pipex.com/leavetheinternet.jpg

[interpretrix]

OK officer I will go quitely! Night.

[samuraimatt]

inter thingy has anybody told you that you are a devilishly blabbering onanist and a nefarious, all-defiling practitioner of bestiality and a conspicuously maladjusted misdemeanant and a decadent, soul-destroying blight upon society?:)

[interpretrix]

http://www.rafpa.com/fcon84.jpg

RAF Police Flight at RAF Coningsby - Summer 1984
Rear rank: Steve Joy(Dogs); Dougie Shaw; Martin Scothern; Phil Nix; Tim Fitzakerly(Dogs); Paul Kirkham.
Centre Rank: Tiny Lawson(Dogs); Simon Farmer; ?Howard(Dogs); Nigel Taffe(Dogs); Mark?; Alan Siggery; Jim Tennant; Scott Etheridge; Derek Davidson; Gary Tegg(Dogs).
Front rank: Jim the civvie; Geoff Glashan, Brian Clements; Gordon Sidey; Mike Price; Mick Hillocks; Mike Evans; Mick Cobbold.

[samuraimatt]

Nice picture but I see you have taken your brown coat off. Who is the other dog?

[On_The_Top_Bunk]

Bet you can spot the 2 most intelligent individuals in that photo.






The 2 at the ends.

We need a comedy goldmine forum for threads like this.

[interpretrix]

That is indeed very kind of you. It is a long time since I had such compliments. Will you recommend me the AFC also?

PER ARDUA AD ASTRA

[samuraimatt]

The AFC? For what?

[BluntedAtBirth]

Oh Interpretix, your cunning rozzer mind tricks are too much for me.

At times like this I look to my little wrist band with the engraved message that means so much to me - WWJHD?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixsc9POvY7E






... What would Jean Hunt Do?

[samuraimatt]

Inter I think you might be happier on this site. Much more your thing.

http://www.rafpolice.co.uk/

[PPRuNe Pop]

Errrrrr! I cannot see any point of this thread. It's certainly not aircrew and it's certainly not a debate, not a worthwhile one anyway. I will close it for those reasons. It might be opened again but I don't see it myself 'cos drivel is a non PPRuNe thing!