What type of "current" bizjet would you like to fly?

[LAVDUMPER]

I agree, this forum has become a bit sedate lately...

I'll throw out a question:

What type of bizjet (currently flying and available like a GV, Lear 45, Citation X, etc.) would you like to fly if you had the opportunity and why?

. .Of course, your preference could be a turboprop like a King Air...

My choice would be the new GAlAXY aircraft - now known as the Gulfstream 200. It's a funky-looking airplane. I caught one on my six a few days ago and I was stunned by its unusual look...

How about you? What would you like to fly if you had the chance?

. .Cheers

[JJflyer]

BBJ or BBJ2. Good crewrest areas. Nice cockpit setup.

[machone]

Gulfstream 100 is quite nice. but Citation X but not in Europe to expensive.

[Airking]

LAVDUMPER,. .gimme a KingAir with APU and´I´ll fly it forever.. .With no APU available on the best aeroplane ever built (B200), I´d like to have a Hawker :. .I can stand straight in the cabin, the cockpit seats would suit perfect(I tried it!) no longrange flying involved (at least not regurlarly), it can fly into relatively small airfields and looks good !

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[EMB Bras]

Id love to get my hands on any sort of business jet... but if it were up to me, I'd go for something like a G4... know a couple of guys that fly them and love it. The G5 can only be better so maybe that even. . .I can't really tell you why I'd want to fly one because I know next to nothing about them but they sure are a fine looking machine and the idea of not being on an airline schedule flying the same routes day in and day out appeals greatly <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[LAVDUMPER]

In addition to the GALAXY (Gulfstream 200), the Falcon 2000 has always impressed me. I had an opportunity to sit in one a few weeks back and the cockpit was great! Nice and wide, full EFIS with a pop-down HUD - and it was sleek.

I know some people who fly Falcon 2000s for Netjets and love them. They get to fly a nice, fast and advanced "widebody" corporate jet with a flight attendent all around the world - no regular schedule. And many have the BBJ to look forward to at Netjets. Not a bad deal in my book..........

Other opinions out there? What would you LOVE to fly if you could (current bizjet) and why?

[Shanwick Shanwick]

Currently fly the B744 and would love a job on the CitationJet. Not enough fuel for long sectors!

[Airking]

Hey Shanwick,. .you´ll hate the CJ when its coldsoaked after a, say , 3 days stay at Moscow (-20°C), no preheating available, no APU, or a stay in Spain during summer on an airfield without GPU and you sweat like a spring ´cause of the x-large windows they build in.... .And you could fly 3,5 hours as well, but without a toilet.

[LAVDUMPER]

Have you people seen the new CJ1 or CJ2 (longer-version of CJ1)? Nice airplanes. Brand new EFIS layout - quite advanced for "smaller" jets.

I agree with Shanwick, flying a CJ2 around Europe wouldn't be too bad at all - nice, enjoyable short hops in an advanced jet...

Who else? What other types of bizjets would YOU like to fly and WHY?

. .Cheers

[Latte tester]

Already flying it - Global Express, much better than the G-1 series V

Latte time... :) :)

[MAX]

Not with NEA are you Latte?

MAX <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

[Cobra]

Hi Guys & Gals!

I'll stick with the trusty BBJ and GV <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[ADS]

I have to say that the GV is a great aircraft to fly, operate and manage, the GV-SP will be real state of the art. I've been on one since 97, previously on a GIV which compared to the GV is a bit of a dog. . .The GLEX is a good aircraft but still has a few problems with the wing. The BBJ and A319 are much again good aircraft but a little imposing and restrictive in operation. The SSBJ is the way forward - T1 should be in the skies by 2008

[Latte tester]

MAX, no, not with NEA, although I am known there.

ADS, what's wrong with the GLEX wing?

Yes, the G-IVSP is a great jet, the G-V a larger variation on a theme and competition never hurt anyone, just fly safe everyone.

Latte time :) :)

[ADS]

The GLEX wing has many design flaws. I spent many months involved in the CFD process and we just couldn't iron them out, still can't!. .Remember that the concept of the swept wing is based on geometry and then look at the wing in plan form, from the spar forward.

[MikeSamuel]

Did anyone read about the Piaggio aircraft in Pilot last month? Piaggio Avanti I think it was called - Really beautiful alternative to the King Air. Would like to fly one of them <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

[khiasanth]

Yep, I'll have to go with the G-V although i do fancy a Citation X a friend flies on, says the performance is phenominal. :)

[EGPFlyer]

Mikey, we get a few Avantis through Glasgow....absolutely lovely aircraft. You wont fins a single rivet on it apparently, and they go like the clappers!

[flaps8]

Hey Guys and Gals. .Ive been lucky, very lucky Falcon 2000, CJ,Ultra,lear 60. Falcon 2000 is a gentlemans plane simply wonderful, CJ great fun,The Ultra is good and solid and works as advertised, Lear 60 is dazzling up to FL410 then it stops and the winglets cause aerodynamic rumble above mach .78.. .BUT you aint seen NOTHING like the Mighty LEAR 31A. .at FL 510 yes FL510 you can take out the autopilot AND yaw damper and it still flys like its on rails, it gets there in no time and is just a dream to handle. Yes its not very big and has no room anywhere, but to fly it is WONDERFUL. <img src="cool.gif" border="0"> <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

[LAVDUMPER]

Watched a Global Express roll past me a few days ago - WOW! Looks like a very stable and comfortable aircraft from a pilot's standpoint. Anyone out there fly Global Expresses? Looks like a smooth ride..............................

I'd also love to take a ride in a Lear 45 - looks razor sharp and fun to fly - nice flightdeck too.

. .Anyone else have an aircraft for their wish list?

[Chimbu chuckles]

Currently Falcon 200 Captain, a lovely aircraft. I have looked in a few Flying Harleys but they just don't do it for me I'm afraid. The Falcon 900 is the sexiest thing on wings as far as I'm concerned...followed closely by the Falcon 2000.

Having said that when we hit TOPD yesterday after flying KHH-XSP I was very happy that they were no further apart. Happiness is not much over 2000nm range :)

Chuck.

[737drvr]

There is nothing like the 31A, I love it!!! It goes like a raped ape, although the 24 is unbeatable up to 450 (13 min).

[TheDrop]

I second the praise of LR31A - nice aircraft, though the only jet I have flown :-) Small cockpit, even smaller baggage space, toilet is only for "emergencies", but then, it only flies 3 hours maximum anyway.

There are some for sale, ex Flexjet, I think around USD 4M a piece.

I would say the 31A is a good deal for a corporate operator who has a limit to spendings on a jet.

TD

[Fatigued]

Airking!. .Have to agree with u on the B200 but personaly I pref the B350 with an APU. How a bloke get a job in Europe on say a kingair with 700 hrs on type and still counting?

[HomerSimpson]

Well Chaps,

If I had my choice Id be spoilt for chice between a HS125, Falcon 900, Gulfstream V or a Global Express.

In fact anything thats gets me above F100, pays well and gets me out of this cr*ppy weather in the UK.

Homer

[Latte tester]

Lavdumper, just came back from a quick trip in the mighty Global. Yes it is a great airplane for those who fly it, it's not so good if your on the outside trying to get in as I fear some of the replies indicate

[StressFree]

Homer,. .Spoilt for choice between 125,F900 and GV?. .Chuck out the 125 straight away............ .Whilst its a great machine it cannot be put in the same pile as the others. I've not flown a GV or F900 but I'm rated on G IV's and if thats anything to go by then the GV must be outstanding.. .Until I get to find out I'll stick with my BBJ, now this really is an excellent plane..............

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[RAFAT]

For me it would have to be JCB's Falcon 2000. Suits you Sir!!

[26point2]

I flew the 125/800 for a couple of years. Its a nice hands on aircraft,and fairly easy type to do a rating on compared to the G4,which is by far more complex in most of its systems. The G4 is a true beauty on the ramp and in the sky, a roomy flt deck and unbelievable power. However,i am truly happy with my hands on the BBJ. A flight deck with loads of room,a real smooth ride,tried and tested systems of the 737 and power to get us up to 410 in no time at all.. .I'd love to have a go on a Lear though, now that looks like fun! :)

[LAVDUMPER]

The Citation Excel looks like a fun airplane to fly. One landed behind me yesterday - a strange hybrid design - but it looks fast...

Any ex-Chauffair pilots or others out there who can attest to that? What do you like about it versus what you previously flew?

. .Any other current wishlist airplanes YOU would like to fly if you had the opportunity?

. .Cheers

[GLX]

I've just qualified on the Global and she's a dream.

ADS, whats wrong with the wing? It seems to do a pretty good job of getting me v quickly to FL nosebleed, cruising at M.88 and giving me a really slow Vref for some good short landings.