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Stubenfliege 2
12th Mar 2007, 13:14
Hi ya,

take a look at this few photos:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1186748&size=L&TopOfYest=yes

Especialy, the last picture in the row with the fire extinguisher on North Korean style:

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/p/2007-03-07/025411353252s.shtml

With regards,

Stubenfliege

Farrell
12th Mar 2007, 13:21
In that first photo......is it a briefcase that the guy is tackling the flames with?

Stubenfliege 2
12th Mar 2007, 13:28
It seems like a briefcase. Hopefully fire resistent...

gijoe
12th Mar 2007, 13:29
...and that well known fire-fighting device the jacket in one of the newspaper pics.
Are they a LOCO? :)

jet2impress
12th Mar 2007, 13:58
Are they LOCO? Care to explain??:ugh:

FCS Explorer
12th Mar 2007, 16:40
LOCO is the usuall abrev for low-coster or low-cost. [i think in spanish it means 'crazy'...]

Middle Seat
12th Mar 2007, 19:13
I think that is a jacket that they're trying to use...not a briefcase. I'm sure the crew will thank the Dear Leader for providing them with the knowledge and the wherewithall for averting disaster to a plane full of comrades.

Love the air stairs in the first link pic!

Smudger
12th Mar 2007, 19:17
Good job the tyres didn't blow then, they could have turned an incident into a triple fatality.

akerosid
16th Mar 2007, 19:11
Interestingly, by way of not very useful information, Air Koryo appears to be the "trading name" of the Air Transport Regiment of the North Korean Air Force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_Air_Force

Quite an interesting link, this; you can actually see all satellite images of all North Korean air bases, including Pyongyang's Sunan Airport, which has a very unusual runway configuration.

Mister Geezer
16th Mar 2007, 19:52
20 years of hard labour for the crew when they get back??

Spuds McKenzie
16th Mar 2007, 21:40
Shouldn't that read "if they get back"...? :uhoh:

James Leite
17th Mar 2007, 09:42
I have to wonder what all you suburban smart alex who are so free with derogative comments would have done if faced with the same situation. You all seem to be saying run away; it is obvious the aircraft has just taxied in with hot brakes that flared into a fire and help is yet to arrive. Brake fires can happen to anyone and they regularly do. In the meantime the troops on the spot are doing their very best. I am planning a visit to North Korea shortly and will fly Air Koryo from Beijing to Pyongyang and I am looking forward to it. I'm sure the service will be superior to some western majors I could name. eh Middle Seat.

James

Middle Seat
17th Mar 2007, 15:57
I'm sure the service will be superior to some western majors I could name. eh Middle Seat.

You mean like Untied? I'm sure Air Koryo's inflight service rivals theirs. Please let us know if the forward cabin walls have portraits of the Dear Leader and the Great Leader affixed to them, and if the cabin crew invoke their names at all.

I don't know how much of a comparison you can make with "western majors you could name" but since this will be an international service, I'm sure you'll receive a higher level of Koryo's service than you would on one of their domestic flights.

moosp
17th Mar 2007, 16:21
I flew as passenger on Air Koryo ZKPY-ZBAA within the last couple of years on an IL62. To answer the comparisons with some Western majors and Untied in particular, I have to say that the enthusiasm and warmth of the ground services and cabin crew were much better that the American carrier.

There was one point that gave a degree of concern. On take off and landing, two of the cabin crew STOOD in the aisle with each hand on a seat back, ready to assist you in case of emergency.

Anyone know the Korean for, "Deceleration G forces"?

And yes James it looks like the first on the scene were doing their best with what they had. In many other countries (this looks like BJS?) the reaction would have been, "Not my problem, let it burn". Sad but true.

Airbubba
18th Mar 2007, 00:06
I have to say that the enthusiasm and warmth of the ground services and cabin crew were much better that the American carrier.

I guess that would qualify as "faint praise". :)

Bobbsy
18th Mar 2007, 01:40
There was one point that gave a degree of concern. On take off and landing, two of the cabin crew STOOD in the aisle with each hand on a seat back, ready to assist you in case of emergency.

Er, I'm pretty sure that, in the case of a real emergency, their chances of being able to help would be much better if they'd been strapped in.

Bobbsy

James Leite
18th Mar 2007, 04:35
moosp:
Your comments about the girls standing in the aisle during take off so as to assist in an emergency is interesting and I wonder if it is Air Koryo's policy or just a whim of those particular young ladies. It was Boeing's policy when route endorsing a new airline crew (new captain and new first officer together) for the instructor to stand in the space between the two pilots. He stood there for all phases of flight including take off and landing. The idea was that in an emergency like an overshoot, an incorrect pitch attitude or too little or too much spool up then the check instructor even though he was not in a seat was in position to help out. I always thought this is a good idea and never heard a scrap of criticism from first officers or flight enginners. Thus it can be said that if Boeing's senior pilots do it with impunity then so can the girls of Air Koryo.

Stubenfliege 2:
Pleased to see your thread title altered to something with a little more decorum. Did you change it or was it the moderator?

akerosid:
Your assumption about the pilots of Air Koryo is possibly correct as I was recently informed by the operator of a tourist company that specialise in selective tours to North Korea that all Air Koryo's pilots were "military pilots" (his words).

James